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haralds

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With Ventura I now have a second boot on a separate disk. Whether running Ventura or Monterey on the second drive the system refuses to "Add Cards" due to changes in security settings.
I have tried all the usually tricks of changing updates, blowing keychains, new installed with all security locked down, iCloud login first, then touch enablement, FileVault - no luck.

Is anybody using wallet on second boot drive or is this a limitation. Does the boot volume HAVE to be on the internal drive? I could add one there.

Due to an unfortunate upgrade I ended up with Ventura on my main system and am planning on just leaving it in place, but I would like to resurrect a fully functioning Monterey to bide the time without Plugin limits and UC stutters. The Stage manager is not worth it!
 

exoticSpice

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I still don't get why people update to a dev 1 beta on their main Mac. Stage Manager is not even ready yet. System Settings is still being worked on it's all buggy.

Anyway, the best way to go forward with is wait till still a better beta or release and then delete the other partition. Apple is very strict with the Wallet app.
 

haralds

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We have products running on macOS. Most of the time changes in macOS are fine. There are times they are not and can be a real PITA to fix. This is why I setup second boot.

The Wallet policy has not been documented anywhere I could find.
 
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exoticSpice

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We have products running on macOS. Most of the time changes in macOS are fine. There are times they are not and can be a real PITA to fix. This is why I setup second boot.

The Wallet policy has not been documents anywhere I could find.
Yeah I agree. But this time they made huge changes and even added a new Metal 3 API.
 

haralds

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I just want to know if this is by design or a bug. The restored Monterey boot on my second disk is fine. I am planning on keeping the Ventura on the main drive and be done with it.
 

hideous cheese

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I encountered this when creating a bootable backup of Monterey (my preferred method, although now much trickier)

The act of creating the bootable backup (with SuperDuper) on an external drive disabled wallet on the internal drive - you could have it in one place or the other but not both.

I never tested wallet from the external drive, and it was a hassle trying to reinstate it on the internal but I got there after lots of googling.
 

haralds

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Yes. I am going to let it rest.
Ventura on the internal drive is working and the future. Wallet is ok there.
I installed Monterey on my external Thunderbolt SSD. Migration is a bit of a pain, since you cannot migrate from a newer OS. I ended up migrating my current apps from my M1 over Thunderbolt, which is really fast.
My user account was migrated from a CCC copy a few weeks old living on a USB 3 spinner. That's an over night job. But it restored the licenses of some software, which can only work on three machines etc.
Logic Pro migration is DUMB, since you have to download all 62GB of loops again. And my mail accounts with millions of messages (25 years of history) also routinely get screwed up. So I nuked that folder and let it dribble back in.

BTW, despite being nominally ⅓ the speed of the internal Mac Studio SSD, I cannot tell the difference in responsiveness of the system running from internal vs external drive. Like CPU performance M1 vs M2 I think there are only edge cases where it makes a difference.
 
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