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What's the difference between Applecare+ and Apples warrantee for 1 year on the iPhone upgrade program because although normally Applecare + is a longer term with the iPhone upgrade program they both last a year? Can someone explain please.
 
AppleCare+ warranty is for 2 years. The same purchased with or without upgrade program. Apple adds it mandatory with the AUP
 
No offense you’re confused.

Apple has two financing programs for the 8, 8+ and X.
iPhone upgrade program (IUP)
24 months,0% financing, Apple care plus included in the monthly payments ( iPhone + cost of Apple care /24), can upgrade after 6 months but must meet minimum payment requirements. Warranty for manufacturer warranty increased to 24 months and Apple support priority calling. Requires a credit card, debit cards will not work.

Apple financing
24 months 0% financing, 1 year warranty against manufacturer defects, loan is for 24 months, no early upgrade option. 90 Apple support. Requires credit card debit card will not work.

AppleCare+ 2 year service plan,
Covers 2 accidental incidents where repairs or replacements are less.
Extends manufacturers warranty to 2 years.

Phones purchased under the carrier plan or outright come with a 1 year manufacturer warranty. AppleCare + can be added within 60 days of purchase.
 
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So aren't they paying for a year that won't be of any benefit if an iphone is only for a year on the AUP?

Apple Care + covers accidental damage, standard Apple Care is an extended warranty. With the iUP programme you have the option of upgrading after 11 payments, but must return the phone and take out a new plan. Having the AC+ just gives you piece of mind, as if the phone is broken - they won't accept it back.

The standard warranty doesn't cover any accidental damage. The iUP programme is just a finance package that allows you the option of upgrading during the finance period. You may decide to keep hold of it, in which case might want AC or AC+ with it.
 
So aren't they paying for a year that won't be of any benefit if an iphone is only for a year on the AUP?

If you are on the IUP, Apple care is broken out into 24 monthly installments.
999 + 199 = 1198 then 1198 / 24 = 49.91 per month.
Now if you decide to upgrade under the IUP, Apple assumes the loan of the old phone and terminates the associated AppleCare+ contract.
 
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For me AppleCare + was a complete waste of money but given the few drops I have had with my 7 Plus (No Damage, Spigen cases are awesome) I will likely get it again or coverage through AT&T.
 
Keep in mind that AppleCare+ on the iPhone X is $199 and there is an additional service fee if you use the accidental damage coverage - $29 for screen repair and $99 for other repairs. If you don’t have AppleCare+, you can still have accidental damage repaired by Apple (https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair/service/pricing). For the iPhone X, a screen repair is $279 ($51 more than the combined cost of AC+ and the service fee) and other repairs are $549 ($251 more than AC+ and the service fee). Of course, I won’t be surprised if all of those numbers are increaseed for the X Plus/Max.

Personally, I've had more iPhones than I can count in my household, and we’ve never had a case of accidental damage that needed a repair. Of course, we all use cases and screen protectors. Given the cost of AC+ compared to the benefits, I think AC+ is less insurance and more of a pre-paid repair plan. So, if you know you’ll need your iPhone repaired at some point because you think you’re almost certain to crack the screen or otherwise significantly damage your phone, you can prepay and get a discount. If there’s a good chance you won’t need the accidental coverage, then all you’re doing IMO is helping add to Apple’s botttom line and make their shareholders a little richer.
 
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Keep in mind that AppleCare+ on the iPhone X is $199 and there is an additional service fee if you use the accidental damage coverage - $29 for screen repair and $99 for other repairs. If you don’t have AppleCare+, you can still have accidental damage repaired by Apple (https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair/service/pricing). For the iPhone X, a screen repair is $279 ($51 more than the combined cost of AC+ and the service fee) and other repairs are $549 ($251 more than AC+ and the service fee). Of course, I won’t be surprised if all of those numbers are increaseed for the X Plus/Max.

Personally, I've had more iPhones than I can count in my household, and we’ve never had a case of accidental damage that needed a repair. Of course, we all use cases and screen protectors. Given the cost of AC+ compared to the benefits, I think AC+ is less insurance and more of a pre-paid repair plan. So, if you know you’ll need your iPhone repaired at some point because you think you’re almost certain to crack the screen or otherwise significantly damage your phone, you can prepay and get a discount. If there’s a good chance you won’t need the accidental coverage, then all you’re doing IMO is helping add to Apple’s botttom line and make their shareholders a little richer.
What I do is get a brand new replacement phone by using the 'other repair' deductible, then sell the phone as brand new. If you do that a few weeks before the keynote, you'll maximize value and you were able to use your phone and not worry about damage for an entire year. For the peace of mind, it's worth the money to me. I'd hate to stress about accidentally damaging my phone and being saddled with a massive repair bill, and i HATE cases.
 
If you use Applecare + a few times or not at all, can you at least take the phone in before it expires and have the battery replaced?...or do they refuse unless the battery performs under 80%
 
If you use Applecare + a few times or not at all, can you at least take the phone in before it expires and have the battery replaced?...or do they refuse unless the battery performs under 80%

For me, they've refused unless battery is under 80%. But with the $25 thing, I think to the end of the year, they'll replace it no questions asked, to the end of this year only.
 
For me, they've refused unless battery is under 80%. But with the $25 thing, I think to the end of the year, they'll replace it no questions asked, to the end of this year only.

Thanks, that's too bad. I experienced how the battery failed in my 6 and it went from 80% capacity to unusable pretty quick. It would be nice to use the program to at least get a fresh one and extend its life.
 
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