Hello! I was just wondering if there will be any sort of authentication for Apple Pay on the Apple Watch because there is no passcode settings or Touch ID to either get into the watch or pay for anything. As of now it seems very insecure.
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ApplePay Authentication on Apple Watch
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As I understand it, when it has been removed from a wrist and then put back on again, a passcode has to be entered. Please feel free to correct me.
I said that because of the info Apple gave us.
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Won't it be difficult to type a passcode on that small of a display?
Don't be snotty because someone just doesn't know. It is perfectly fine to form an opinion based on the knowledge at their disposal, regardless of if it is the full picture or not. When it's not, you should take it upon yourself to educate them.
@virginblue4 is correct - when the band is removed from your arm and then placed back on there, we have been told that a passcode will be required to enable Pay, maybe even to access the device at all.
Yeah I believe this is accurate. Though does that mean that users would have to enter a password every time they're done charging it? Putting in a password every morning might get cumbersome, especially with long passwords.
Yes. Apple said you authorise (link) to your phone. Then from that point the watch will need a random passcode entered from your unlocked phone to reauthorise use.
It would be better if Apple did the picture password thing.
(Do they ever do that?)
Where you display a picture, any picture of your choice, and then you use your finger to tap/draw over the picture.
Say you uploaded a photo of your dog.
You could record yourself:
Tapping on his left ear, then his right ear, circling his nose, and a curve movement under his chin.
This is way easier to remember than number and letters, and a more 'human' way of doing it.
Also very secure as taps and movement variations on a screen are limitless.
(Do they ever do that?)
Where you display a picture, any picture of your choice, and then you use your finger to tap/draw over the picture.
Say you uploaded a photo of your dog.
You could record yourself:
Tapping on his left ear, then his right ear, circling his nose, and a curve movement under his chin.
This is way easier to remember than number and letters, and a more 'human' way of doing it.
Also very secure as taps and movement variations on a screen are limitless.
2 ways simple:
1) When you put on your
Watch you pair it to your iPhone using fingerprint or PIN authorization (unknown at this time which). As long as you have your Watch on your wrist it is authorized.
2) If you remove yourWatch and don't have your iPhone, you can reauthorize using a PIN on the Watch.
1) When you put on your
Watch you pair it to your iPhone using fingerprint or PIN authorization (unknown at this time which). As long as you have your Watch on your wrist it is authorized.2) If you remove your
Watch and don't have your iPhone, you can reauthorize using a PIN on the Watch.
Indeed yes, Of course Windows is not the 1st to use this as an easy way to secure something as opposed to remembering a string of digits.
You can imagine I'm sure how much more user friendly and "human" it would be to do a few taps and a swipe or two across a touch screen as opposed to entering numbers of letters which is a very non natural thing, and probably why most people have trouble remembering codes.
My question (and I'm sure somebody will try it right away) is:
Can you slide something under the watch to fool the sensors, remove the watch, then put in on another wrist without having to unlock it again?
That is, will it simply check for proximity, which would use the least amount of battery. Or will it check for a heartbeat all the time... which would use far more battery. (There was a fan rumor that it would use heartbeat recognition, but not only does that makes no technical sense, it would chew battery up like crazy.)
Hmm. One alternative, related to past Apple patents, would be to use an extremely low res (just a few pixels) camera to scan the overall skin color/tone when it's put on, and check every minute to see if that has changed. That would make it harder to slip something matching underneath.
I'm pretty sure the Watch tracks your heart rate throughout the duration it is on a wrist (like other statistics), thus, when the connection from your wrist is broken, it will know instantly.
Though, while I swear I've read that somewhere, people seem to think otherwise so maybe not.
I think we must assume there must be a time/delay function with this.
Remove watch, and it will give you 10 second, 30 seconds, 1 minute or something before it locks itself down.
(God this is sounding more on a pain every moment even as I think about this!)
It cannot be instant.
Why?
Well, remember, lots, and I mean LOTS of people hate tight watches, done up tight on your wrist.
Many like a bit of slack, more so I would guess in very hot weather.
Not so slack that any watch would spin all around to the underside your wrist, but enough so that it is a bit lose.
No one at Apple has said anything about how well the watch will monitor, or how long a break in the signal has to be, before any issues occur.
I can guarantee one thing, if it does not work well, unless it's done up snug on your wrist and the body of the watch cannot really move hardly at all, as it's held firmly against your wrist to work, it's going to put a LOT of people off after a while.
Apple must realise this, and have tested that it still works well, when it's a comfortable but lose fit as many like.
Remove watch, and it will give you 10 second, 30 seconds, 1 minute or something before it locks itself down.
(God this is sounding more on a pain every moment even as I think about this!)
It cannot be instant.
Why?
Well, remember, lots, and I mean LOTS of people hate tight watches, done up tight on your wrist.
Many like a bit of slack, more so I would guess in very hot weather.
Not so slack that any watch would spin all around to the underside your wrist, but enough so that it is a bit lose.
No one at Apple has said anything about how well the watch will monitor, or how long a break in the signal has to be, before any issues occur.
I can guarantee one thing, if it does not work well, unless it's done up snug on your wrist and the body of the watch cannot really move hardly at all, as it's held firmly against your wrist to work, it's going to put a LOT of people off after a while.
Apple must realise this, and have tested that it still works well, when it's a comfortable but lose fit as many like.
2 ways simple:
1) When you put on your
2) If you remove your
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That's ashame. It was reported it wouldn't be a user defined pin. Oh well
You enter the PIN when you put the
Watch on and don't have your iPhone in range. You only enter it once as long as you don't remove the Watch and that could be just once a day. How is that a big deal?
If it watched the heartbeat all the time, it would chew up battery quickly. What Apple says is:
"The custom heart rate sensor in Apple Watch detects your heart rate during workouts. When you’re not in a workout, Apple Watch uses an accelerometer, ..."
They also say that while movements are tracked all day, cardio is a special case:
"There’s also a separate Workout app for dedicated cardio sessions. "
All of this sounds like the heartbeat sensor is enabled only when you tell it you're doing a workout. Not all the time.
You enter the PIN when you put the
Not what I was referring to