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Eso

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Push is useless for me. I only have one application that has the option for push notifications: e*trade. It's not even activated by default. You must first be logged into your account and then visit the settings panel where it will show options for push notifications. *If* you turn one of them on, then the iPhone will give you a pop-up asking if it is OK for the application to activate push notifications.

Yesterday, I opened up the e*trade app and it immediately came up with a pop-up asking if I would like to allow push-notifications for this app. I deny the request. I thought it was unusual, but they did just update the app so it is possible they changed the behavior of their push notifications.

So now, I was heading to bed and I grabbed my iPhone to set the alarm, when it seems the battery is unusually low. My battery will normally last for 4 hours of usage; 4 days of standby. My current usage is just over 2 hours usage; 2.5 days standby. I expect to have about 50% battery remaining. It's at 25%.

I open up settings, and then I see it...

PUSH NOTIFICATIONS > ON

Are you ____ing kidding me. It's disabled for the only application that has push, but it's on nonetheless, as if that makes any sense. It just up and decided to start draining my battery with a PNS connection even though nothing is going to be using it. Thanks.

I'm not content enough just to turn it off. You see, up until now it hasn't even been an option in my settings (that's how much I despise it). I don't even want my iPhone to know what Push notifications are. I'm very superstitious with all the battery problems that 3.0 has had, push being one of the problems, and I went through some difficulty (and restores) getting my battery life to stabilize.

I plug in the phone thinking that I can just remove the app and put it back on to fix it. After a minute, however, I get the idea to just restore from the backup from the last sync (2.5 days ago). Excellent! I can pretend none of it ever happened.

But, of course, there's a problem. iTunes just backed up my phone. When I try to Restore from backup, the most recent backup is the backup it just made. The ones previous to that were back in August and June. iTunes replaced the last known good backup with one it just made automatically when the iPhone is connected even though any number of settings could have been messed up in the meantime. Good practice is to keep the last few most recent backups as well as periodic base points. Apparently iTunes has just been replacing the last backup for 4 moths. Even worse, it does so automatically unless you "beat the clock" by canceling the sync in time. You see the conundrum, right?

You need to restore from a backup.
You need to plug the phone in to restore.
iTunes automatically backs up your phone when you plug it in.
This backup replaces the previous backup.
The previous backup is the one you need to restore to.

Who makes stuff work like this? At least it's nothing critical, but it's still quite annoying, senseless, and (in this case) noticeably impacted my battery's performance. Nothing has ever convinced me more to never buy a Mac than owning an iPhone.

(/rant)
(flame) //Say what you will, you probably still use a Mac ;)
 
I don't think Apple is giving you the headache...

Its you. Just turn it off and deal with the extra menu there, its not going to drain your battery.
 
I think adding customizable profiles might be the best solution to this kind of problem: allowing all the bells and whistles when you have access to power and allowing you to keep energy-draining processes to a minimum when you don't.

Alternatively Apple could introduce the 3GS/XL - an iPhone with twice the battery capacity. ;)
 
It just up and decided to start draining my battery with a PNS connection even though nothing is going to be using it.

And what gave you that impression?

You didn't get any push notices during that time, correct? So why do you think that it's draining your battery?

That's the whole point of push...it shouldn't be using any battery when it's not getting any messages.
 
That's the whole point of push...it shouldn't be using any battery when it's not getting any messages.

Not true. A connection is maintained between your device and the Apple push servers. This will most definitely affect your battery.
 
Quick fix:
Uncheck the box on your iPhone iTunes summary page that allows, "Automatically sync when this iPhone is connected".

Each and every time you plug-in your iPhone to iTunes you will need to click sync in the lower right to do so, otherwise it won't. Should be a perfect solution to what it is you are trying to accomplish.
 
I think the biggest thing about this post is the fact you get 4 days of standby with seemingly light, but regular use. That's impressive. You really don't have much to complain about.
 
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