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I seem to be in the extreme minority of people who pay for their phones outright, and then get on a prepaid plan. I've done this since the iPhone 5 initially released. With all the current talk about available carrier "deals" on new phones, I'm still amazed no one ever seems to consider the fact that these carriers charge you double the cost (or more) for postpaid service compared to prepaid service. Some of these major service providers have unlimited prepaid services themselves, and it's normally half the price. So, with all the talk about trade in deals, why does it seem like no one considers the actual cost of owning a phone, AND paying for the service over the course of a year, or two. At the very least, a customer can save themselves $480 a year just by going prepaid over postpaid with a savings of $40 a month. You may save even more depending on how much data you need. You also never have to worry about device payoffs, early upgrades, or the feeling of being stuck with a carrier. That savings will pay for a brand new phone every two years, without even trading in your old phone.

Look at Visible, which is owned by Verizon. You can pay them $40 a month for unlimited data ($25 when you join a party of 4). However, Verizon postpaid services start at $70 a line, before the cost of your phone. They make it seem like they're financing your phone at 0%, when they are actually charging you almost double the price for service simply because they're financing your phone. Whether you want to believe it or not, you are paying more now than you did back when you were actually on a 2 year contract. You are still in a contract when you lease a phone. It's all semantics. 15 years ago, you could get out of your contract by paying a termination fee, which was the same as you just paying off the phone they gave you. It's no different than today. It's actually getting worse because some carriers are trying to lock you in for 2.5-3 years now. They don't actually care about the phone they're giving you. They care about finding a way to lock you into paying them double the cost of service. That's the strategy.

Personally, I'm on WiFi a lot. I've actually had Spectrum Mobile's "By The Gig" plan before, and had no issues with it. Most months my phone bill was $14. Yes, $14! There are many options out there for everyone, and they're all cheaper than postpaid service.

I know some people are probably not in the position to fork over $700-1,200 for a new phone, but IMO that means you simply can't afford to own that phone. It's no different than you trying to get a loan at a bank, and them charging you a 44% annual interest rate when you consider the increased cost of monthly postpaid service. Would you accept that? If you can't pay for the phone outright, then finance an unlocked phone on the Apple Card, and get on a prepaid service.

Why does it seem like no one else talks about this? The total cost outlay over 1-2 years is what customers should be considering. Not just how much a carrier says they are charging you to finance your phone. It seems like most customers could benefit from switching to prepaid service.
 
I do the same, I have metro by t mobile, I upgrade to a new iPhone every year and sell the previous model for about $800-$900, add about $200-$300 and get the new one, no contract, no monthly credits, I pay month to month and tbh I've had verizon and ATT before and I don't notice any difference in service, most of the time I'm in a wifi area anyway.
 
Most prepaid accounts are not prioritized for network coverage. It may seem like it’s on Verizon, but the prepaid devices will be the first ones slowed down or will not get the fastest speeds.
 
We're on family plan so it's $40/line on postpaid. With multiple lines, heavy data usage (15-40 GB/mo) and use of features such as hotspot, prepaid becomes a less attractive proposition.

I actually do have a line on Visible to test quality of service but I guess the network in my area is busy enough that Visible is noticeably deprioritized versus postpaid.
 
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Most prepaid accounts are not prioritized for network coverage. It may seem like it’s on Verizon, but the prepaid devices will be the first ones slowed down or will not get the fastest speeds.

That's what they say to get you to pay for postpaid. I've had prepaid services through Verizon, ATT, Spectrum, Straight Talk, and Visible. I've never once thought to myself that my speeds hinder any task I was trying to perform.
 
I am in the UK and there is no way I would take out a phone on contact with the mobile provider. I have got a really nice sim only deal and just buy my phone outright. A lot of people in the UK do the same, but even more don't and still get their phones on contract with the mobile provider. Its so much more expensive if you do that though.
 
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I always buy my phone outright as I simply cannot justify the idea of financing a phone or any “upgrade” programs. I used to upgrade every two years, however, this go around I’ve used my XS Max for 3 years. This year I did use Apple Card though for the 3% cash back and 0%. I’ll pay it off in 2 billing cycles.

With that said, I am on T-Mobile postpaid. This year I traded in my phone for $320 and $200 in monthly bill credits. $520 is at the top end of what I could have sold my XS Max for on Swappa so it seemed like a reasonable deal without the hassle (or fees). I do understand the measly $200 is spread across 2 years but I don’t plan on leaving so it’s not a concern.

Finally, my T-Mobile postpaid was a promo about a year and a half ago (unlimited data but slowed at 25gb per month which none of us come close to because of wifi). Sign up for 3 lines, get the 4th free. Autopay discount, Netflix discount (added bonus), and Military Discount brings my 4 lines to $90 per month. $22.50 per line is a pretty sweet deal for me (especially considering when I was with AT&T it was about $170 per month). All in all, I’m quite pleased.
 
I seem to be in the extreme minority of people who pay for their phones outright, and then get on a prepaid plan. I've done this since the iPhone 5 initially released. With all the current talk about available carrier "deals" on new phones, I'm still amazed no one ever seems to consider the fact that these carriers charge you double the cost (or more) for postpaid service compared to prepaid service. Some of these major service providers have unlimited prepaid services themselves, and it's normally half the price. So, with all the talk about trade in deals, why does it seem like no one considers the actual cost of owning a phone, AND paying for the service over the course of a year, or two. At the very least, a customer can save themselves $480 a year just by going prepaid over postpaid with a savings of $40 a month. You may save even more depending on how much data you need. You also never have to worry about device payoffs, early upgrades, or the feeling of being stuck with a carrier. That savings will pay for a brand new phone every two years, without even trading in your old phone.

Look at Visible, which is owned by Verizon. You can pay them $40 a month for unlimited data ($25 when you join a party of 4). However, Verizon postpaid services start at $70 a line, before the cost of your phone. They make it seem like they're financing your phone at 0%, when they are actually charging you almost double the price for service simply because they're financing your phone. Whether you want to believe it or not, you are paying more now than you did back when you were actually on a 2 year contract. You are still in a contract when you lease a phone. It's all semantics. 15 years ago, you could get out of your contract by paying a termination fee, which was the same as you just paying off the phone they gave you. It's no different than today. It's actually getting worse because some carriers are trying to lock you in for 2.5-3 years now. They don't actually care about the phone they're giving you. They care about finding a way to lock you into paying them double the cost of service. That's the strategy.

Personally, I'm on WiFi a lot. I've actually had Spectrum Mobile's "By The Gig" plan before, and had no issues with it. Most months my phone bill was $14. Yes, $14! There are many options out there for everyone, and they're all cheaper than postpaid service.

I know some people are probably not in the position to fork over $700-1,200 for a new phone, but IMO that means you simply can't afford to own that phone. It's no different than you trying to get a loan at a bank, and them charging you a 44% annual interest rate when you consider the increased cost of monthly postpaid service. Would you accept that? If you can't pay for the phone outright, then finance an unlocked phone on the Apple Card, and get on a prepaid service.

Why does it seem like no one else talks about this? The total cost outlay over 1-2 years is what customers should be considering. Not just how much a carrier says they are charging you to finance your phone. It seems like most customers could benefit from switching to prepaid service.
Prepaid, at least on T-Mobile, does not offer the SyncUP Drive (a cellular device that provides WiFi in your car and vehicle monitoring). Nor does it offer access to the T-Mobile 4G/LTE Cellspot (a femtocell). Further, prepaid does not offer Data Stash (any unused data is rolled over month to month). I'm also pretty sure that prepaid on T-Mobile does not offer free lines. I have a free line. There are also postpaid customers on T-Mobile that have gamed that free line on us system and simply pay for the tax each month.

I am unwilling to give those things up for a lesser price on prepaid.

We also fall into your category of 'cannot afford to own that phone'. But we get them anyway because we get a tax refund every year. But we also don't upgrade every year either. We hold on to our phones for 2.5 to 3.5 years. When we're ready, we use part of our yearly tax refund to get new phones by paying the amount down that is asked for. We don't have to forfeit all our refund money to get phones and we pay just a small additional amount on our monthly carrier bill.

We aren't going anywhere. T-Mobile is only our second carrier since 1999. We did 16 years with Sprint and so far have done 6 with T-Mobile. What is important to us is our plan and the items we have on it. We don't care about phone deals. That doesn't mean we won't take advantage of them if they happen to occur when we are looking to upgrade, but we do not chase them. We aren't moving off our plan simply to get a deal on a device.

We are grandfathered on a plan we could lose and end up paying more if we chase deals. This year's new phone is going to be next year's old phone. We aren't going to risk losing the plan for a phone that will be last year's model in one year's time.
 
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