Are iCloud Photo Library and photo stream mutually exclusive?

[ApplePhy]

when I have iCloud Photo Library turned on, and photo stream turned on at the same time, photo stream does NOT appear on my iPhone 7 plus.

I need to turn off iCloud Photo Library, and turn off then on Photo stream for it to appear (while leaving iCloud Photo Library turned OFF)

The moment I turn iCloud Photo Library on, photo stream disappears.

Why can I not have both turned on at the same time? I would like my photos to be uploaded to iCloud, but also have photo stream enabled.

 

[M. Gustave]

Photo Stream is an obsolete service to allow you to get your last 30 days of iPhone photos available on your Mac (in low resolution versions).

Unless you have an old Mac that isn't eligible for iCloud Photo Library, you should leave Photo Stream off.

 

[ApplePhy]

Photo Stream is an obsolete service to allow you to get your last 30 days of iPhone photos available on your Mac (in low resolution versions).

Unless you have an old Mac that isn't eligible for iCloud Photo Library, you should leave Photo Stream off.

Not only from the MAC, but all iOS devices. I sometimes use my iPad for photos (camera and screenshots), and I like to see the photos appear also on my iPhone.

With just iCloud Photo Library on, it's way too difficult to instantly see all your photos from all your apple devices in one place (well--the last 30 days or 1000 photos, that is)

I just wish I could turn BOTH on at the same time

 

[M. Gustave]

With just iCloud Photo Library on, it's way too difficult to instantly see all your photos from all your apple devices in one place (well--the last 30 days or 1000 photos, that is)

I don't understand what you mean. There is no advantage to Photo Stream over iCloud Photos on an iOS device. None.

 

[ApplePhy]

I don't understand what you mean. There is no advantage to Photo Stream over iCloud Photos on an iOS device. None.

When i take a picture on my iPad (and have photo stream turned off, but iCloud Photos turned on), it doesn't show up anywhere in Photos App on my iPhone.

When Photo stream is on (and iCloud Photos is off), i can see that picture in Photos App on my iPhone (under photo stream).

Where can I find that picture that i took on my iPad, on my iPhone without having to log into iCloud itself? (When photo stream is off, iCloud Photos on).

Am i missing something here?

 

[M. Gustave]

When i take a picture on my iPad (and have photo stream turned off, but iCloud Photos turned on), it doesn't show up anywhere in Photos App on my iPhone...
Am i missing something here?

Yes, you're missing that you need to upload any new photos to your iCloud Photo Library, then it will show up on all your devices. On your "Photos" tab, you'll see "Wi-Fi Required - __ Photos to Upload"

After upload, wifi is not required for any of the other devices to show those photos.

This Apple article might help you further:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205743

 

[ApplePhy]

Yes, you're missing that you need to upload any new photos to your iCloud Photo Library, then it will show up on all your devices. On your "Photos" tab, you'll see "Wi-Fi Required - __ Photos to Upload"

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After upload, wifi is not required for any of the other devices to show those photos.

This Apple article might help you further:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205743

Im always connected to wifi , and so have never encountered 'wifi required---photos to upload'

You make it seem like I need to upload photos myself (if photos are from iPhone for example). I don't know what you mean here.

 

[M. Gustave]

I "make it seem"? LOL
Good luck, buddy.

 

[ApplePhy]

I "make it seem"? LOL
Good luck, buddy.

You were helpful.