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This is a question I have to People like me who come from owning a 27 inch iMac and want to enjoy the benefits of an M1 iMac But in someway it seems that we are compromising by Getting a smaller screen estate and by missing out if possible new M2 iMacs are in the horizon that will be much faster and more efficient than the M1. Also it feels to me that if your Budget is tight you have to go for the lower end spec model And you won’t get the full experience by missing out on the larger SSD and ram since they are priced so high.

What are the chances that Apple will soon release much faster Apple Silicon iMacs and their offerings will be Much better specked and priced So that the M1 line will feel pointless and be left in the past.
 
This is a question I have to People like me who come from owning a 27 inch iMac and want to enjoy the benefits of an M1 iMac But in someway it seems that we are compromising by Getting a smaller screen estate and by missing out if possible new M2 iMacs are in the horizon that will be much faster and more efficient than the M1. Also it feels to me that if your Budget is tight you have to go for the lower end spec model And you won’t get the full experience by missing out on the larger SSD and ram since they are priced so high.

What are the chances that Apple will soon release much faster Apple Silicon iMacs and their offerings will be Much better specked and priced So that the M1 line will feel pointless and be left in the past.
Better specced within a year - very high. Better priced - very low. I’ve been using iMacs as my private Mac platform since the Bondi Blue. I have a strong feeling those days are coming to an end.
But if you have time to wait, it seems like a good idea to at least check out how Apple intends to flesh out their product line.
 
The problem is with any technology, it's outdated the moment you get it out of the box. There's always going to be newer and better hardware on the horizon. Spec chasing is okay but it depends if what you're doing demands that much power in the first place.

What would you be using the Mac for?

This could help advise in terms of screen size and other specs. One thing I will say though is there's a reason the 27-inch iMac wasn't updated with the new design / processor, so if you need to have the newest (I'm one of those people who likes to have the newest even though I don't need it, and that's okay) perhaps my advise would be to hold off the trigger.
 
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My 2012 Mini is showing it's age. I almost got the 1st Gen M1 Mini, but am holding off til September to see what is released. In the mean time, I love my M1 Air and have been using that consistently and have had NO issues whatsoever.

Keeping fingers crossed that the new mini will be spec'd nicely and there will be a reasonably priced apple monitor to go along with it ;-)
 
My 2010 iMac 27" is also showing its age. I need a new Mac now. That's why I bought the M1 24" iMac. I know I could have waited for the new "iMac Pro" that will almost certainly be larger than my 27" model from over a decade ago, but I need a new one NOW.

I would not have bought it if it was Apple's first M1 computer. I've learned that buying a first-gen product is a perilous thing. First is the "old dog/new tricks" issue. The old ways of fixing problems often doesn't work. A whole new approach is needed and the early adopters are the Guinea pigs. I was always an early adopter and beta tester. But now I just want something that works reliably. The game has passed me by. We used to code in Assembly. Ah, the good old days!™

There is also some software that's critical to my day to day workflow. New architecture creates delays with software compatibility. Some of us recall switching to OSX and how long it took for companies like Adobe to get on board. Even with the lead time Apple gave its major software partners it was a while before OSX-compatible versions of old standards were stable.

As for my shiny new blue M1 iMac, I can say I don't miss the little bit of lost screen real estate. Safari is 3/4 of my screen and my email is under the Safari window showing just enough to display new messages. This setup works perfectly for me. Acrobat Pro and Photoshop Elements are full screen windows behind Mail and Safari. For how I work, I find this setup on a 24" screen is ideal.
 

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"What are the chances that Apple will soon release much faster Apple Silicon iMacs and their offerings will be Much better specked and priced So that the M1 line will feel pointless and be left in the past."

I'd consider those "chances" to be very VERY good...
 
This is a question I have to People like me who come from owning a 27 inch iMac and want to enjoy the benefits of an M1 iMac But in someway it seems that we are compromising by Getting a smaller screen estate and by missing out if possible new M2 iMacs are in the horizon that will be much faster and more efficient than the M1. Also it feels to me that if your Budget is tight you have to go for the lower end spec model And you won’t get the full experience by missing out on the larger SSD and ram since they are priced so high.

What are the chances that Apple will soon release much faster Apple Silicon iMacs and their offerings will be Much better specked and priced So that the M1 line will feel pointless and be left in the past.

I moved from 27 to 24 by intention, not because I wanted an M1 system - the 27-inch was sufficient for my needs and only 6 years old. For me, the 27-inch screen was just too big. I liked it, but it was too close to be able to use it without causing problems with constantly having to flex my neck up and down all day, every day. By comparison, the 24-inch screen is much, much more manageable in my workspace.

Given that it also provides excellent power and performance too, I didn't make a compromise by downsizing the screen.

If I was able to reorganize my office to provide for a much deeper desk, I would consider a larger iMac as and when they come out, but I have no real use for additional speed in an M1x/M2, and don't think I am ever likely to, so really don't feel any need to question my choice so far.

Saying that a supposed M2 system would be 'much faster and more efficient' also is a bit misleading. Somewhat, probably, but it presupposes that for most of us, the M1 has limitations, which I really don't think is the case.

I think you'll be waiting quite a while for a 'much faster Apple Silicon' iMac. I certainly don't think the next releases will be that much better specced and I very much doubt they will be better priced either.

On a final point, it seems highly improbable to me that (with all due respect to you), you have identified questions and issues which Apple themselves have not considered and planned for. As such I really doubt that the M1 line will end up 'feeling' pointless. That it will at some point be left in the past is inevitable, but what we are most likely to see for the next few years are incremental system and performance bumps and updates, much as we have seen from just about every systems manufacturer over the years. All that Apple Silicon will do is create a new 'plateau'.
 
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The problem is with any technology, it's outdated the moment you get it out of the box. There's always going to be newer and better hardware on the horizon. Spec chasing is okay but it depends if what you're doing demands that much power in the first place.

What would you be using the Mac for?

This could help advise in terms of screen size and other specs. One thing I will say though is there's a reason the 27-inch iMac wasn't updated with the new design / processor, so if you need to have the newest (I'm one of those people who likes to have the newest even though I don't need it, and that's okay) perhaps my advise would be to hold off the trigger.

Mainly for web & graphic design and lots of browsing tabs and a little bit of casual video editing. I waited a year to see the new refreshed iMacs and I would wait even longer for the rumored M1 32” update but I have a chance to sell my current iMac for a good price and if I wait a little longer i won’t be able to sell it for much.

My biggest gripe is that my budget doesn’t allow me to go for the 1TB SSD and I feel the 512gb won’t be enough for my needs. Couple that with the fact that I feel completely lost in deciding for an external drive solution with all the options that are out there.
 
Better specced within a year - very high. Better priced - very low. I’ve been using iMacs as my private Mac platform since the Bondi Blue. I have a strong feeling those days are coming to an end.
But if you have time to wait, it seems like a good idea to at least check out how Apple intends to flesh out their product line.

haha, that makes me feel better…
I waited almost a year to see a worthwhile update so I would have no issue waiting a little bit more but I have a good chance of selling my current iMac for a worthy price, that’s the only reason I want to jump the gun.
 
I really can't understand the strange complaints about screen real estate.
Couldn't you hook the iMac with another screen? A 49" 4K OLED TV, perhaps?
I have a computer monitor that I have currently connected to the 27 inch iMac and it serves me very well.
 
Couple that with the fact that I feel completely lost in deciding for an external drive solution with all the options that are out there.
Get the 1Tb Sandisk Extreme Pro Portable SSD v2 and call it a day.
 
I moved from 27 to 24 by intention, not because I wanted an M1 system - the 27-inch was sufficient for my needs and only 6 years old. For me, the 27-inch screen was just too big. I liked it, but it was too close to be able to use it without causing problems with constantly having to flex my neck up and down all day, every day. By comparison, the 24-inch screen is much, much more manageable in my workspace.

Given that it also provides excellent power and performance too, I didn't make a compromise by downsizing the screen.

If I was able to reorganize my office to provide for a much deeper desk, I would consider a larger iMac as and when they come out, but I have no real use for additional speed in an M1x/M2, and don't think I am ever likely to, so really don't feel any need to question my choice so far.

Saying that a supposed M2 system would be 'much faster and more efficient' also is a bit misleading. Somewhat, probably, but it presupposes that for most of us, the M1 has limitations, which I really don't think is the case.

I think you'll be waiting quite a while for a 'much faster Apple Silicon' iMac. I certainly don't think the next releases will be that much better specced and I very much doubt they will be better priced either.

On a final point, it seems highly improbable to me that (with all due respect to you), you have identified questions and issues which Apple themselves have not considered and planned for. As such I really doubt that the M1 line will end up 'feeling' pointless. That it will at some point be left in the past is inevitable, but what we are most likely to see for the next few years are incremental system and performance bumps and updates, much as we have seen from just about every systems manufacturer over the years. All that Apple Silicon will do is create a new 'plateau'.
Yeah, no doubt that the insane performance of the M1 iMac could very well be sufficient for my needs for the next 10 years, I was mostly referring to the value of performance and price for example what if the base model of upcoming M2 iMac comes with 512 GB instead of 256gb? That alone creates a much better value for money than the current offering.
 
..I was mostly referring to the value of performance and price for example what if the base model of upcoming M2 iMac comes with 512 GB instead of 256gb? That alone creates a much better value for money than the current offering.

That rather depends. Firstly, since you can only buy what is currently available, it comes down to getting the best you can afford to buy at the time you need it. Thus, if you don't need it yet, you can afford to wait and see what the next product announcement contains.

On the basis of trying to convert your existing iMac into as much cash to put into the deal as possible, selling it now would be wise, but means buying a new one now would be necessary - and whatever is next on the list of models isn't really a help, because it isn't available now.

As to whether an M2 iMac in due course would be 'much better value' that the current offering, that supposes that the next model will be both a lot faster, and more powerful, and better specced and no more expensive. That's a lot of suppositions to try and base a rational product choice upon - and for reasons suggested, probably not actually likely to be realized.

For the kind of work you described in a post earlier, a current M1 iMac with 16Gb RAM and 512SSD would wipe the floor with your current Mac. And leave plenty of options for external storage for a lot of video source material for your editing work.

On the other hand, if you don't have a real need to jump now, then holding off until you do might render the next model on as an option, and it likely will be a bit faster. Personally, I wouldn't wait, but then since I have my 24-inch iMac and my 27-inch is now having a deserved rest, I already made that choice. I don't regret it in any way in the slightest.
 
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This is a question I have to People like me who come from owning a 27 inch iMac and want to enjoy the benefits of an M1 iMac But in someway it seems that we are compromising by Getting a smaller screen estate and by missing out if possible new M2 iMacs are in the horizon that will be much faster and more efficient than the M1. Also it feels to me that if your Budget is tight you have to go for the lower end spec model And you won’t get the full experience by missing out on the larger SSD and ram since they are priced so high.

What are the chances that Apple will soon release much faster Apple Silicon iMacs and their offerings will be Much better specked and priced So that the M1 line will feel pointless and be left in the past.

I don't really care about going from 27 to 24, especially because my iMac is a late 2013, Id rather have the 4.5K display. Im just hoping my iMac holds up during this ridiculous 6 week wait for a new one...
 
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I replaced a late 2009 iMac 27 with the 24 and couldn't be happier. This new iMac takes less desk space than the old one and it's much faster with a nice screen. So, I think it really depends on your use case.
 
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Better specced within a year - very high. Better priced - very low. I’ve been using iMacs as my private Mac platform since the Bondi Blue. I have a strong feeling those days are coming to an end.
what do you mean by those days are coming to an end?
you dont want to use an mac anymore?
 
I have a chance to sell my current iMac for a good price and if I wait a little longer i won’t be able to sell it for much.
If I were facing your decision, I would first figure out if I truly need a new Mac. If I did, I wouldn't put too much weight on trade-in $$$ as a determinant of timing. Why? Because having the use of my current machine has value too. So since I'm a financial markets person, I believe the current sale price of my computer probably is equal to or less than the remaining usage value to me (finance types will recognize this as a form of efficient markets). That means selling now or selling later doesn't make that much difference when I look at the total cost of using my current Mac over its lifetime.

Now if you're somebody who feels FOMO a lot, you could always put your current out of pocket cost for the M1 you're considering (price of M1 minus sales value of currently owned) in a savings account for a while. Then if Apple announces a M1+ or M2 Mac you can't resist–or you need–this year, you'll have some cash plus interest to apply towards the new machine. Or if Apple's next offerings don't impress you, you can spend the money on a M1. And don't forget, the longer the M1's have been around, the better the selection in Apple's refurb store. That's a great place to get a deal.
 
The screen area of the 24" iMac (actual diagonal is 23.5") is 25% less than that of the 27" iMac. If you are coming from a Macbook or a smaller iMac you probably won't realize what you are missing, but it is more noticeable when downsizing from something bigger (perhaps in a good way, for some). I'm not willing to lose that much screen area.

"Bigger may not be better, but it certainly is more!" (governs most people's buying decisions in this country (USA): cars, drinks, houses, coffee, food, TVs, etc.)
 
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I really can't understand the strange complaints about screen real estate.
Couldn't you hook the iMac with another screen? A 49" 4K OLED TV, perhaps?
What's the point of getting an iMac if you're going to use another screen instead? Just get a Mac Mini and save hundreds of dollars. (If you want two screens anyway, that's a different matter, but then the problem of the #1 screen having enough real estate becomes a factor again.)
 
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What's the point of getting an iMac if you're going to use another screen instead? Just get a Mac Mini and save hundreds of dollars. (If you want two screens anyway, that's a different matter, but then the problem of the #1 screen having enough real estate becomes a factor again.)
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My 24" iMac w/ 24" ACD
 
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This is a question I have to People like me who come from owning a 27 inch iMac and want to enjoy the benefits of an M1 iMac But in someway it seems that we are compromising by Getting a smaller screen estate and by missing out if possible new M2 iMacs are in the horizon that will be much faster and more efficient than the M1. Also it feels to me that if your Budget is tight you have to go for the lower end spec model And you won’t get the full experience by missing out on the larger SSD and ram since they are priced so high.

What are the chances that Apple will soon release much faster Apple Silicon iMacs and their offerings will be Much better specked and priced So that the M1 line will feel pointless and be left in the past.
The M1 24” iMac is going to be here for a while. It’s only been on sale for a little over a month. This is THE consumer iMac. A larger iMac (Pro) will inevitably be launched, probably around October and I expect it to start at around $2299, as the first 27” Retina iMac did when it was launched in Late 2014. It will most likely be well specc’ed (16GB/512GB), but that 30-32” 6K display won’t be cheap.

You should not expect a revised 24” iMac for at least 12-18 months.

FYI, the price of the M1 iMac isn’t any higher than the old 21.5” Intel iMac with the same configuration.
 
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