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Are you going to buy the Open Computer?

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Dsr1205

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Pre-Sorry to any moderators who find this discussion now allowed, just in case.....anyway...

Are you gonna buy one? i think its a good deal:
Case Color: Black
Intel Processor: Core2Duo/2.66GHz (+ $90.00)
Hard Drive: 250GB 7200RPM SATA
Graphics Processor: GeForce 8600GT 512MB (+ $155.00)
Firewire: Not Included
OS X Leopard: Installed (+ $155.00)
Memory: 2GB DDR2
800 even

same price as a top end mac mini, with kick ass mac pro ness thrown in. The memory is a rip off, everything else seems rightly priced. So, what do you think? i might buy this just to replace my aging 2 year old rig, shave off 150.
 
It's conspicuous to me that no other specs are listed. What's its cache? How about wifi and bluetooth? Does it have digital optical ports? What is the logic board? How will it deal with future OS updates from Apple? It's too much of a risk as-is. No way would I pick one up at this point.
 
Cave Man said:
It's conspicuous to me that no other specs are listed. What's its cache? How about wifi and bluetooth? Does it have digital optical ports? What is the logic board? How will it deal with future OS updates from Apple? It's too much of a risk as-is. No way would I pick one up at this point.
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Good points, i emailed them asking about the mobo and will post if/when i get a response. They might conceal that because they dont want to loose their market share haha. They have a FAQ on the website about apple updates and basically, it is hit or miss but because they use the vanilla apple kernal (untouched base installation) (best way to describe it i guess for laymen) it might be compatible with updates.

" Can I run updates on my Open Computer?
The answer is yes and no. No because there are some updates that are decidedly non-safe. Yes because most updates are not non-safe. It's best to check on InsanelyMac for this information but when in doubt don't update it. You may have to reinstall your OS X if it is a non-safe update." their FAQ

EDIT: Bluetooth and wifi will have to be added but wifi is somethign not all useres need, like me, and bluetooth agian not all users need, but if i got this id pop bluetooth in and get me thhe keybord and mouse asap.

Bottom line this is the cheapest and safest HACKINTOSH to date, the osx86 project is riddled with mobos and hardware that need pathces and it too much work for the everyday person to work out, (im lazy) anyway, they put it together and id be totaly for someone doing it for me.

flopticalcube said:
Its also about 10X the size of a mini with 1/10th the performance of a Mac Pro.
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The mini is overpriced and has terrible hardware, thats why. And some people only want a imac with no screen, like me. theres allot fo people who want a imac with no screen charge attached to it.
 
Cave Man said:
It's conspicuous to me that no other specs are listed. What's its cache? How about wifi and bluetooth? Does it have digital optical ports? What is the logic board? How will it deal with future OS updates from Apple? It's too much of a risk as-is. No way would I pick one up at this point.
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This is just like buliding your own PC and hacking it to install OS X. The only difference is that the hacking is done for you as they've implemented the EFI emulator and w.e to override the feature that checks for mac hardware, and they're probably using similar components to what Apple uses to prevent driver issues. Would not buy one, a software update would probably break it in a few months.
 
I would be afraid that it would break after an update. and I find the idea a little ridiculous. If you want a PC with near seamless integration between hardware and software then buy a mac. If you want something you can update and is more customizable then get a PC and put windows or linux on it. combining the two just gives you a less customizable PC with weak hardware-software (and potentially software-software) integration.
 
I almost hope the whole thing crashes simply because the company is acting so slimy. They are diving through hoops of legality and maneuvering through trademark infringements left and right. Call me a ludicrous fanboy, but I love the simplicity of things working, and I don't think buying one of these would be a good idea at all. (no guarantee updates wouldn't fix it)
 
As a Mac Fan, I still hope they get away with it. This won't affect anyone who buys a real Mac in any bad way. If a success, it would only make Apple think about changing there view on their high prices for over due hardware (Mini) and about those consumers who want a headless mid-range Mac, which is exactly where these Open Computers are aiming at.

I still won't buy one because I just love the Mini's design: small, quite... It only needs a hardware update very badly. Once it gets that and I can spare the money (which I had saved but after waiting for an update for months have spent on other stuff), I'll get one!
;)
 
I thought about the idea briefly but considering the work I would have to put in to get wifi etc and the researching on whether an update will kill it, it seems better to make your own which could possibly look nicer and dont forget the sense of accomplishment and price difference.

But all this would take time I do not have so for now I'm going to stay with Apple but I will be looking to see how all this works out for those who do try.
I just feel Apple will put something in an update that could destroy all this if it gets too out of hand.

just my thought
 
Trash. Buy it and they go out of business in a few months. What are
you going to do? Take it to the genius bar?

AND your stabbing Apple in the back.
 
skye12 said:
Trash. Buy it and they go out of business in a few months. What are
you going to do? Take it to the genius bar?

AND your stabbing Apple in the back.
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Not if you're capable of supporting it yourself. I take it you've never built your own PC, right? And you've always had that apple bottle in your mouth? Thought so.

I would buy it, but I'd really rather build it myself. Unless there were some sort of discount for having them doing it - it'd be cheaper to build it anyway.
 
mrwizardno2 said:
Not if you're capable of supporting it yourself. I take it you've never built your own PC, right? And you've always had that apple bottle in your mouth? Thought so.
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To each his own, I suppose, but for me, the hassles of building it myself and then supporting it myself pretty much kills the reasons why I like the Mac platform. If I wanted to fiddle with hardware and support a computer myself relying only on on-line users and hobbyist, I would be using Linux or something else.
 
Just bought a Mini and am VERY happy with it. I would only have considered something like this if it was GUARANTEED to work with OSX with no extra updates, downloads or hacks ... in other words, if it had Apple support.

Apple provides the whole package, which is a strong enticement for me, and the Mac just works. Seriously, if I wanted to constantly futz with a computer just to make it work I would build a PC and load it with windows or Linux.
 
If Apple doesn't get off their a** and release a new iMac soon, I might buy one ;)

I wish - and I know this is a long-shot with Apple's arrogance - that the OpenMac would make Apple realize that there's a strong interest from their customers in a mid-level tower computer, something between the mini and the pro. I'd prefer a tower over the iMac any day, but I'm not willing to pay for a pro.
 
Dsr1205 said:
Intel Processor: Core2Duo/2.66GHz (+ $90.00)

same price as a top end mac mini, with kick ass mac pro ness thrown in.
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Just noticed this, and wanted to make sure you weren't expecting one thing and getting another. The processor is more like an iMac, not a Mac Pro. If I am reading this correctly, this box has a single dual-core chip, whereas the MacPro has two quad-core chips.
 
nick9191 said:
Hell no.
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MattGarner said:
Won't be buying one. Sticking to the actual Apple products. :)
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Thank you, add me as well, Not a hope in all eternity am I putting cash on that.

Unfortunately speaking out against this so called computer just gives you a whole heap of hassle from the Hackintosh group or should we call them now the Hackintosh Fanbois because thats basically how they are acting. Apparently being anti Open Mac / Open Computer or whatever it is called means your an Apple Fanboi as well. The whole situation stinks and there should be a simple segregation between this and the genuine article. They are two completely different things, although try telling that to the Hackintosh FANBOIS!!!!!
 
I have actually ordered one, and I posted in this thread... for some reason the post got deleted :confused:
 
Support it yourself?

mrwizardno2 said:
Not if you're capable of supporting it yourself. I take it you've never built your own PC, right? And you've always had that apple bottle in your mouth? Thought so.

I would buy it, but I'd really rather build it myself. Unless there were some sort of discount for having them doing it - it'd be cheaper to build it anyway.
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If you're going to build your own and support it yourself just put linux on it. There are some pretty good distros now. Some people like the Mac's form factor and design, which is nice. But since the move to Intel the quality is little different than commodity PCs (depending on what you choose to put into it). The biggest draw of Macs for me is OSX, compatibility with unix, and support and updates for all the hardware they put in them. And if you're going to spend the time to support it yourself, you can make linux work just like OSX.

I can't believe there's much of a market for an unsupported Mac clone.
 
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