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TheRealAlex

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Here’s the link below. Just look at the Black text against the white background and scroll up and down are you guys witnessing the black text leaving like a smear or Ghost trail ?

I am using a 11” iPad Pro

 

AutomaticApple

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Here’s the link below. Just look at the Black text against the white background and scroll up and down are you guys witnessing the black text leaving like a smear or Ghost trail ?

I am using a 11” iPad Pro

No, I don't see any smearing while scrolling on that webpage.
 
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TheRealAlex

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I don’t see any smearing or fuzzy text on my iPad Pro 11.”

Alex, why are you always finding find with every single Apple product purchase? No matter what you buy from Apple, you seem to have a problem.
I disagree my iPad Pro 11” is amazing so is My MacPro both amazing devices. As a side note after a hard reset the ghosting is resolved.
 

joeblow7777

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I don’t see any smearing or fuzzy text on my iPad Pro 11.”

Alex, why are you always finding fault with every single Apple product purchase? No matter what you buy from Apple, you seem to have a problem.

I haven’t followed Alex’s posts so I have no idea if this is true for him, and I’m not saying that it is, but there are people who I call “tech hypochondriacs”. Just like hypochondriacs freak out and convince themselves that they have or will get every medical condition that they hear about, tech hypochondriacs worry about or think their device has every defect they see online. Signs of tech hypochondria include buying and exchanging the same device several or even dozens of times because you keep getting a “defective” one, avoiding buying a device at all because of a (usually very rare, or barely noticeable) defect that you heard about online, and painstakingly examining a new device until you find a “defect” that a normal person would never even notice, then getting fixated on it, usually leading to the multiple exchanges mentioned above.
 

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I haven’t followed Alex’s posts so I have no idea if this is true for him, and I’m not saying that it is, but there are people who I call “tech hypochondriacs”. Just like hypochondriacs freak out and convince themselves that they have or will get every medical condition that they hear about, tech hypochondriacs worry about or think their device has every defect they see online. Signs of tech hypochondria include buying and exchanging the same device several or even dozens of times because you keep getting a “defective” one, avoiding buying a device at all because of a (usually very rare, or barely noticeable) defect that you heard about online, and painstakingly examining a new device until you find a “defect” that a normal person would never even notice, then getting fixated on it, usually leading to the multiple exchanges mentioned above.
@DragonX would like to disagree. 😆
 

DragonX

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@DragonX would like to disagree. 😆

Haha, this sounds exactly like Apple's marketing propaganda - there are no defective devices, it's "people" problem blah blah blah. This comes straight from 90's marketing book for dummies. Doesn't work anymore.

As about ghosting text, it was a huge problem on older iPads due to cheap screen matrices they were using. The matrix response time (you can google it) was very huge. Now it's better but I won't be surprised if Apple now using cheap matrices again. But personally I don't face these problems anymore as I switched away from iPad long ago.
 

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Haha, this sounds exactly like Apple's marketing propaganda - there are no defective devices, it's "people" problem blah blah blah. This comes straight from 90's marketing book for dummies. Doesn't work anymore.

As about ghosting text, it was a huge problem on older iPads due to cheap screen matrices they were using. The matrix response time (you can google it) was very huge. Now it's better but I won't be surprised if Apple now using cheap matrices again. But personally I don't face these problems anymore as I switched away from iPad long ago.
Do you think @joeblow7777 should acknowledge that?
 

joeblow7777

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Haha, this sounds exactly like Apple's marketing propaganda - there are no defective devices, it's "people" problem blah blah blah. This comes straight from 90's marketing book for dummies. Doesn't work anymore.

As about ghosting text, it was a huge problem on older iPads due to cheap screen matrices they were using. The matrix response time (you can google it) was very huge. Now it's better but I won't be surprised if Apple now using cheap matrices again. But personally I don't face these problems anymore as I switched away from iPad long ago.
Do you think @joeblow7777 should acknowledge that?

I don’t know if I need to, because it has little to do with what I said. By that logic, by acknowledging that medical hypochondriacs exists, I’m saying that there’s no such thing as illness and they’re all in people’s heads. Nor did I say that the tech hypochondriac mindset is unique to Apple products or their users.

It’s not even a point of contention. Anyone who has spent any time on a tech forum knows that there are people who are obsessive compulsive about their devices having flaws. It’s just a fact.
 
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doboy

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I disagree my iPad Pro 11” is amazing so is My MacPro both amazing devices. As a side note after a hard reset the ghosting is resolved.
Don't you mean a soft reset cause hard reset would be wiping it clean.
 

DragonX

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I don’t know if I need to, because it has little to do with what I said. By that logic, by acknowledging that medical hypochondriacs exists, I’m saying that there’s no such thing as illness and they’re all in people’s heads. Nor did I say that the tech hypochondriac mindset is unique to Apple products or their users.

It’s not even a point of contention. Anyone who has spent any time on a tech forum knows that there are people who are obsessive compulsive about their devices having flaws. It’s just a fact.

I like the following diagram. It's not mine, but it shows how Apple propaganda is functioning. Those who feel they're hit by one of the Apple widespread defects can find themselves on one of the steps and act accordingly.

Apple cycle of dealing with issues

Here's the typical cycle for problems reported on Apple products:
1. A few members post reports of the problem, report it to Apple
2. No response from Apple
3. Increased number of people report the issue
4. No response from Apple
5. Apple apologists dismiss the reports as very rare, the result of trolling, or exaggeration by drama queens
6. Even more reports of the problem
7. No response from Apple
8. News of the problem hits blogs
9. Apple apologists dismiss the blogs as simply engaging in clickbait
10. No response from Apple
11. Those affected by the issue threaten a class-action lawsuit
12. Apple apologists decry the "sue happy" nature of American consumers
13. Apple acknowledges the legitimacy of the problem
14. Apple apologists are silent
15. Apple release an update to correct the problem
or
15. They set up a "program" to address the problem.
16. Apple gains some positive publicity
17. Apple apologists applaud Apple for doing the "right thing". (for an issue that they said from day-1 was not actually an issue)
18. First hand experience with the “program” reveals very strict guidelines and restrictions that greatly reduce the number of affected customers that can participate in the program.
 

seadragon

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I like the following diagram. It's not mine, but it shows how Apple propaganda is functioning. Those who feel they're hit by one of the Apple widespread defect can find themselves on one of the steps and act accordingly.

Apple cycle of dealing with issues

Here's the typical cycle for problems reported on Apple products:
1. A few members post reports of the problem, report it to Apple
2. No response from Apple
3. Increased number of people report the issue
4. No response from Apple
5. Apple apologists dismiss the reports as very rare, the result of trolling, or exaggeration by drama queens
6. Even more reports of the problem
7. No response from Apple
8. News of the problem hits blogs
9. Apple apologists dismiss the blogs as simply engaging in clickbait
10. No response from Apple
11. Those affected by the issue threaten a class-action lawsuit
12. Apple apologists decry the "sue happy" nature of American consumers
13. Apple acknowledges the legitimacy of the problem
14. Apple apologists are silent
15. Apple release an update to correct the problem
or
15. They set up a "program" to address the problem.
16. Apple gains some positive publicity
17. Apple apologists applaud Apple for doing the "right thing". (for an issue that they said from day-1 was not actually an issue)
18. First hand experience with the “program” reveals very strict guidelines and restrictions that greatly reduce the number of affected customers that can participate in the program.

Spot on! And in some cases, Apple never responds like for example the unresponsive screen issues with the iPad and owners (like me) end up with worthless junk.
 
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joeblow7777

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I like the following diagram. It's not mine, but it shows how Apple propaganda is functioning. Those who feel they're hit by one of the Apple widespread defects can find themselves on one of the steps and act accordingly.

Apple cycle of dealing with issues

Here's the typical cycle for problems reported on Apple products:
1. A few members post reports of the problem, report it to Apple
2. No response from Apple
3. Increased number of people report the issue
4. No response from Apple
5. Apple apologists dismiss the reports as very rare, the result of trolling, or exaggeration by drama queens
6. Even more reports of the problem
7. No response from Apple
8. News of the problem hits blogs
9. Apple apologists dismiss the blogs as simply engaging in clickbait
10. No response from Apple
11. Those affected by the issue threaten a class-action lawsuit
12. Apple apologists decry the "sue happy" nature of American consumers
13. Apple acknowledges the legitimacy of the problem
14. Apple apologists are silent
15. Apple release an update to correct the problem
or
15. They set up a "program" to address the problem.
16. Apple gains some positive publicity
17. Apple apologists applaud Apple for doing the "right thing". (for an issue that they said from day-1 was not actually an issue)
18. First hand experience with the “program” reveals very strict guidelines and restrictions that greatly reduce the number of affected customers that can participate in the program.

None of this contradicts anything I’ve said, and nothing I’ve said contradicts this. Not sure why you’re quoting me.

my point: some people go out of their way to find and worry about problems.

your point: problems exist.

These aren’t mutually exclusive concepts, and in fact it’s ludicrous to deny that they’re both true.
 

ericwn

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I like the following diagram. It's not mine, but it shows how Apple propaganda is functioning. Those who feel they're hit by one of the Apple widespread defects can find themselves on one of the steps and act accordingly.

Apple cycle of dealing with issues

Here's the typical cycle for problems reported on Apple products:
1. A few members post reports of the problem, report it to Apple
2. No response from Apple
3. Increased number of people report the issue
4. No response from Apple
5. Apple apologists dismiss the reports as very rare, the result of trolling, or exaggeration by drama queens
6. Even more reports of the problem
7. No response from Apple
8. News of the problem hits blogs
9. Apple apologists dismiss the blogs as simply engaging in clickbait
10. No response from Apple
11. Those affected by the issue threaten a class-action lawsuit
12. Apple apologists decry the "sue happy" nature of American consumers
13. Apple acknowledges the legitimacy of the problem
14. Apple apologists are silent
15. Apple release an update to correct the problem
or
15. They set up a "program" to address the problem.
16. Apple gains some positive publicity
17. Apple apologists applaud Apple for doing the "right thing". (for an issue that they said from day-1 was not actually an issue)
18. First hand experience with the “program” reveals very strict guidelines and restrictions that greatly reduce the number of affected customers that can participate in the program.

All different opinions exist on discussion forums. Calling other names like haters, fanboys or apologists doesn’t help. Apple forums are not the only forums where an exchange of opinions causes disagreements, that’s the nature of different experiences for different people.
 

kazmac

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Spot on! And in some cases, Apple never responds like for example the unresponsive screen issues with the iPad and owners (like me) end up with worthless junk.
Right there with you. I wish Apple would address the heat / touch issues. As it stands, I love the Apple Pencil too much to move on (I’ve tried, but always come back); so I trade up to the newest, cheapest model that suits my usage. Ridiculous? Yes. Perhaps when Corel Painter and Wacom are Big Sur compatible, I’ll try a Wacom and MBP as I thought I might do.
 
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