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Axemantitan

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During its fourth quarter 2009 conference call, Chief Operating Officer John Stankey said AT&T plans to spend between $18 billion and $19 billion in 2010 upgrading its wireless and backhaul networks to handle the onslaught of new traffic. This is roughly $2 billion more than the company had invested in the previous year.

Specifically, Stankey said AT&T will add 2,000 new cell sites and upgrade existing cell sites with three times more fiber links than it had in 2009. This will increase capacity for the backhaul network that connects the cell towers to AT&T's main network. The backhaul portion of the network is a critical component to AT&T's network; with these upgrades in place, Stankey said the company will be able to easily upgrade in the future to 4G wireless technology.

AT&T will begin testing its 4G network using LTE, the same technology Verizon Wireless is using for its 4G network, starting in 2010, with a few commercial deployments ready in 2011 and more commercial deployments in 2012.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/01/29/att.network.boost/index.html
 
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Hasn't everyone known this for about 2 years now?
 
If this is some attempt to believe that the iPhone is going to Verizon next year, your mistaken. I wouldn't expect Apple to offer a Verizon iPhone at least until 2013, unless they still want to produce an iPhone with different hardware specifically for Verizon.

The reason this won't happen until 2013 is because phones that use the AT&T network will still need 3G and EDGE support in order to take full advantage of AT&T's network, that is because AT&T nor Verizon will be able to build a full LTE network for a few years (Verizon said it would have nationwide 4G by the end of 2013). The same would apply to Verizon, who will need phones that have both LTE and EVDO Rev. A support built-in. It won't be for a few years until apple can make a device that can fully function of both Verizon and AT&T at the same time.
 
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Hasn't everyone known this for about 2 years now?

Obviously not, because I didn't. Why do people on this website persist in speaking to others as if they were idiots?
 
If this is some attempt to believe that the iPhone is going to Verizon next year, your mistaken. I wouldn't expect Apple to offer a Verizon iPhone at least until 2013, unless they still want to produce an iPhone with different hardware specifically for Verizon.

The reason this won't happen until 2013 is because phones that use the AT&T network will still need 3G and EDGE support in order to take full advantage of AT&T's network, that is because AT&T nor Verizon will be able to build a full LTE network for a few years (Verizon said it would have nationwide 4G by the end of 2013). The same would apply to Verizon, who will need phones that have both LTE and EVDO Rev. A support built-in. It won't be for a few years until apple can make a device that can fully function of both Verizon and AT&T at the same time.

If Apple will ever release the iPhone for Verizon, it will need to have EVDO and 1x CDMA. So the question is whether they will wait 3 or 4 years for the LTE network to be fully established to do so or whether they will release sooner. My guess is sooner because they stand to lose a lot by not releasing on Verizon. Android will simply drown out the iPhone with sheer numbers of hardware releases if Apple is not proactive in releasing on CDMA carriers. Not to mention, AT&T has made it quite clear at CES that they are investing significantly in Android and WebOS, another sign that Apple may release on another carrier sooner rather than later. So soon, you are going to have Android on all carriers competing against the iPhone on one carrier. This is not a good position to be in even for a company as dominant as Apple. Additionally, I think the recent iPad release has shown that Apple is not some infallible company who can get whatever they want whenever they want. They are going to have to bend to the will of the market at some point.
 
If Apple will ever release the iPhone for Verizon, it will need to have EVDO and 1x CDMA. So the question is whether they will wait 3 or 4 years for the LTE network to be fully established to do so or whether they will release sooner. My guess is sooner because they stand to lose a lot by not releasing on Verizon. Android will simply drown out the iPhone with sheer numbers of hardware releases if Apple is not proactive in releasing on CDMA carriers. Additionally, I think the recent iPad release has shown that Apple is not some infallible company who can get whatever they want whenever they want. They are going to have to bend to the will of the market at some point, and the market wants the iPhone on Verizon. Not to mention, AT&T has made it quite clear at CES that they are investing significantly in Android and WebOS, another sign that Apple may release on another carrier sooner rather than later.

It hasent already, and apple shows no interest in any CDMA network. Don't get your hopes up. Clearly Android is NOT drowning the iphone out in any way shape or form because the Iphone still is selling awesome and the android still has a lot of issues and google has sort of lost there vision with it seen through the n1.
 
It hasent already, and apple shows no interest in any CDMA network. Don't get your hopes up. Clearly Android is NOT drowning the iphone out in any way shape or form because the Iphone still is selling awesome and the android still has a lot of issues and google has sort of lost there vision with it seen through the n1.

Right now, the iPhone is still top dog, no doubt about that. And yes Android does have numerous issues. But I feel it will become another PC vs Mac situation where you have a superior but restricted iPhone competing against a mediocre but ubiquitous Android. The question is whether Apple will be happy with this potential arrangement.
 
Right now, the iPhone is still top dog, no doubt about that. And yes Android does have numerous issues. But I feel it will become another PC vs Mac situation where you have a superior but restricted iPhone competing against a mediocre but ubiquitous Android. The question is whether Apple will be happy with this potential arrangement.

Well clearly they are if they not only kept the iPhone as GSM only att exclusive in the united states, but making the ipad the same thing. (GSM only in this case.) I think the iphone really proves alot that it can compete will all the phones it is with exclusive contracts around the world locking it to one carrier. (Excluding places where it is illegal for locked phone.) The problem with Android is even though its great, they in a sense lost a sense of what they were out to do, this is evident with the N1, this phone has software that google has yet to release to the rest of the android market.
 
It hasent already, and apple shows no interest in any CDMA network.

I'm assuming you've told yourself that enough times to actually believe it. Apple actually showed initial interest in CDMA when they went to Verizon with the iPhone first, and Verizon ultimately turned it down, leaving us with the AT&T iPhone.

Verizon is in a fierce battle with AT&T right now that is costing both companies millions of dollars in advertising expense. Verizon stands to gain a lot by having the iPhone, and Apple stands to gain a lot by having the iPhone on Verizon's network. It's not like it's gonna cost $50 million dollars to develop a Verizon iPhone. The core of the phone is identical. Hell, Qualcomm already has a chip that's ready to roll for the iPhone! It's not going to be a big deal to make a Verizon iPhone, so stop making it a big deal.
 
I'm assuming you've told yourself that enough times to actually believe it. Apple actually showed initial interest in CDMA when they went to Verizon with the iPhone first, and Verizon ultimately turned it down, leaving us with the AT&T iPhone.

Verizon is in a fierce battle with AT&T right now that is costing both companies millions of dollars in advertising expense. Verizon stands to gain a lot by having the iPhone, and Apple stands to gain a lot by having the iPhone on Verizon's network. It's not like it's gonna cost $50 million dollars to develop a Verizon iPhone. The core of the phone is identical. Hell, Qualcomm already has a chip that's ready to roll for the iPhone! It's not going to be a big deal to make a Verizon iPhone, so stop making it a big deal.

I bet your telling yourself that Apple is/was going to use that said chip. Who said it was aimed for apple? Sure Apple went to them first but that was what 3 years ago? This new Ipad in which is GSM only could have also use said qualcomm chip, did they? Wheres the CDMA version? There is none, because that interest is gone, along with the CDMA iphone.
 
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