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The Robot Cow

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Sep 12, 2012
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So my Galaxy Nexus was becoming more and more unbearable to own as each day passed. The battery would only last me about 4/6 hours per charge(it has even left me stranded a few times :mad:). The lag was getting annoying, gps worked when it wanted to. The phone likes to heat up pretty quick and kill itself as quick as you can say unobtanium.
I've had it. I was dead set on the 5s, but i couldn't find one at a reasonable price so i found a mint iPhone 5 and i couldn't have been better. Even came with Applecare :cool:

So coming from the Galaxy Nexus back to the iPhone 5, it's just a breath of fresh air. The lag is gone, I can finally use my phone without worrying about the battery and not have to baby my usage. iOS 7 is actually pretty solid from what i've noticed so far. The display has to be another major plus coming from the Gnex. But the thing i love the most of the physical feel of the device. Nothing but a positive experience from the iPhone so far!
 

dkersten

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Nov 5, 2010
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It seems to me that most of your problems would be solved with any modern smartphone (i.e. last year and this year) regardless of platform. I'm currently using a 5s and have a Nexus 5 on the way. I agree iOS 7 is a step in the right direction, but I'm pretty sure Apple will never let me have the options I have come to enjoy on Android. As long as it works for you, then nothing else really matters
 

The Robot Cow

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Sep 12, 2012
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I'm actually thinking about getting a Nexus 5. I knew it wasn't going to happen on Verizon but having one on the side sounds like a pretty good idea. My Nexus 7 is a little too big to carry with me at times.
 

dkersten

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Nov 5, 2010
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I just dropped my unlimited data on Verizon and switched to AT&T. I don't regret it for a second even without unlimited data. I would consider switching if you are in any position to do so. Hell a Nexus 5 on the $30 T-Mobile prepaid plan may be a perfect option if coverage is good enough for you
 

tech4all

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Jun 13, 2004
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So my Galaxy Nexus was becoming more and more unbearable to own as each day passed. The battery would only last me about 4/6 hours per charge(it has even left me stranded a few times :mad:). The lag was getting annoying, gps worked when it wanted to. The phone likes to heat up pretty quick and kill itself as quick as you can say unobtanium.
I've had it. I was dead set on the 5s, but i couldn't find one at a reasonable price so i found a mint iPhone 5 and i couldn't have been better. Even came with Applecare :cool:

So coming from the Galaxy Nexus back to the iPhone 5, it's just a breath of fresh air. The lag is gone, I can finally use my phone without worrying about the battery and not have to baby my usage. iOS 7 is actually pretty solid from what i've noticed so far. The display has to be another major plus coming from the Gnex. But the thing i love the most of the physical feel of the device. Nothing but a positive experience from the iPhone so far!

Then something is (obviously) wrong with it. I've had mine since last summer last year and have had zero of those issues: battery last a day or two depending on usage, no lag, gps works (although sometimes it can take few minutes I'll admit), and phone only heats up when using the GPS in my car in direct sun.

On a side note and this isn't directed at you. I was playing with a friends iPad mini running iOS 7 and the "lag" was the same as my Galaxy Nexus - no lag. I honestly don't see how people can honestly say Android has lag especially on a Nexus device running pure Android. I think such people are either: going with the flow; just saying it cause others iPhone users say it; or have used a much earlier of Android and not a more current version.

Whatever.

I'm actually thinking about getting a Nexus 5. I knew it wasn't going to happen on Verizon but having one on the side sounds like a pretty good idea. My Nexus 7 is a little too big to carry with me at times.

I heard it has a nice camera and the build quality seems better than the GNexus and N4 IMO. :)
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
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It should be no surprise that a phone that is a year newer then another offers a better user experience.

The 4S would be a better comparison. And let's face it on Verizon since their 3G is so slow the iPhone 5 with LTE is a massive upgrade compared to the 4S.

CDMA is generally a handicap for any phone.
 

aneftp

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Jul 28, 2007
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I just dropped my unlimited data on Verizon and switched to AT&T. I don't regret it for a second even without unlimited data. I would consider switching if you are in any position to do so. Hell a Nexus 5 on the $30 T-Mobile prepaid plan may be a perfect option if coverage is good enough for you

I hope you sold your unlimited Verizon data before leaving (unless your phone number is that important).
 

jsw

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Mar 16, 2004
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I honestly don't see how people can honestly say Android has lag especially on a Nexus device running pure Android. I think such people are either: going with the flow; just saying it cause others iPhone users say it; or have used a much earlier of Android and not a more current version.
I think the difference is that, on iDevices, it is as though your finger is "stuck" to the screen, so every movement is mirrored immediately, whereas on the Nexus 5, say, which is very, very fast, it's more like there's a bit of oil on the screen and it takes a fraction of a second to get "traction" - this is most noticeable when rapidly moving your finger up and down.

Some people are bothered immensely by this. I don't notice it at all. However, when I went up to play with Safari on my wife's iPhone 5, it did scroll immediately. I attribute that as much to the fact that the iPhones only have 1/3 the pixels to throw around as to any other factor.

If one sees the Android behavior as "lag", then I can see why it might irritate some. I prefer to think of it as my finger being a race car, and it takes the tires a moment of burnout before moving things along. While childish, this also makes scrolling so much more fun. I also make the screeching noises whenever I change finger direction.
 

mib1800

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All Iphones including the ip5s lag very much compared to android is scrolling (something we do most of the time). It usually takes 3 to 4 times more flicks to scroll the same amount on iPhone than on android.
 

mattopotamus

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Jun 12, 2012
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All Iphones including the ip5s lag very much compared to android is scrolling (something we do most of the time). It usually takes 3 to 4 times more flicks to scroll the same amount on iPhone than on android.

That is not lag. That is the way iphones handle scrolling in order to reduce the appearance of lag.
 

mib1800

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That is not lag. That is the way iphones handle scrolling in order to reduce the appearance of lag.

Doesn't matter what you call it but scrolling is still very slow compared to android.

I think it is hypocritical to make a big deal of the slight stutter in android (which affects aesthetic mostly) but overlook the lethargic ios scrolling speed which is far more irritating and does really lower efficiency.
 

mattopotamus

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Jun 12, 2012
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Doesn't matter what you call it but scrolling is still very slow compared to android.

I think it is hypocritical to make a big deal of the slight stutter in android (which affects aesthetic mostly) but overlook the lethargic ios scrolling speed which is far more irritating and does really lower efficiency.

Agreed. I would take android scrolling over iOS scrolling any day.
 

JerZyT28

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Jul 24, 2011
169
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I have a Galaxy S4 and a Nexus 4, must admit that I would not trade either of them for a iPhone 5, and TBH probably not for a 5S either.

Having had an S4, it was better than the iPhone. Now I have the Nexus 5....even better!
 

Dontazemebro

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Jul 23, 2010
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I dunno, somewhere in West Texas
I have a Galaxy S4 and a Nexus 4, must admit that I would not trade either of them for a iPhone 5, and TBH probably not for a 5S either.

I will and I did. There's just something about the S4 that's quite not right and I didn't fully figure it out until I got the Note 3. It just needs more doggone ram.

Touchwiz is so heavy that it can't operate smoothly on 2 gigs of RAM. At almost any give time the Note 3 is running at around 1.8 gigs without a whole bunch going on at once. That leaves ample space for everything to flow smoothly if I decide to go heavy usage or just keep it to light browsing.

The optimization really affects the user experience on the S4 and with the Note 3 it's a night & day difference. Plus the snapdragon 800 helps a bit too.
 

pierrer

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Oct 22, 2013
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Android can be more laggy than ios. I think it has to do with the way the OSes process things. Ios gives first priority to your finger and the home button being pressed, whereas android will let the web page load before it responds to your finger. I'm not sure if this is still the case, because I think this is what project butter set out to do, but it still is slightly there from my experiences.
 

kevinof

macrumors 6502a
Jul 30, 2008
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Dublin/London
I have to agree with you there. I have an (old!) S3 and with stock Android + touchwiz on it the performance was just about acceptable. Not blindingly fast for such a powerful processor and loads of ram.

Recently went to Cyanogen 4.3 which is so close to stock and the difference is just incredible. When you strip away all the layers and other stuff that the manufacturers stick on there and just get back to the raw android its a dream. smooth as silk!



I will and I did. There's just something about the S4 that's quite not right and I didn't fully figure it out until I got the Note 3. It just needs more doggone ram.

Touchwiz is so heavy that it can't operate smoothly on 2 gigs of RAM. At almost any give time the Note 3 is running at around 1.8 gigs without a whole bunch going on at once. That leaves ample space for everything to flow smoothly if I decide to go heavy usage or just keep it to light browsing.

The optimization really affects the user experience on the S4 and with the Note 3 it's a night & day difference. Plus the snapdragon 800 helps a bit too.
 

Dontazemebro

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Jul 23, 2010
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I dunno, somewhere in West Texas
Android can be more laggy than ios. I think it has to do with the way the OSes process things. Ios gives first priority to your finger and the home button being pressed, whereas android will let the web page load before it responds to your finger. I'm not sure if this is still the case, because I think this is what project butter set out to do, but it still is slightly there from my experiences.

That sounds about right. The way I heard it, iOS prioritizes the ui, while android functions more like a computer and does everything simultaneously at once. Although some oem's like HTC did the same thing as iOS with their overlays. This is why people sometimes find HTC sense to be more fluid than others.


I have to agree with you there. I have an (old!) S3 and with stock Android + touchwiz on it the performance was just about acceptable. Not blindingly fast for such a powerful processor and loads of ram.

Recently went to Cyanogen 4.3 which is so close to stock and the difference is just incredible. When you strip away all the layers and other stuff that the manufacturers stick on there and just get back to the raw android its a dream. smooth as silk!

I noticed the same thing when I ran CM 10 on the S4. It made the device an entirely different phone. It was blazing fast with no hiccups.
 

Nabooly

macrumors 6502a
Aug 28, 2007
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5
After having the Note 2 for over a year I have come to the conclusion that it is the best phone by far I have ever owned.

That said, when Apple comes out with a 5" phone, I will likely switch back and forth between android and apple. Something about iOS is compelling still. But the functionality is limited by their OS (which I'm OK with, and that is why I would be using 2 devices).
 

LostSoul80

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Jan 25, 2009
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I attribute that as much to the fact that the iPhones only have 1/3 the pixels to throw around as to any other factor.

Android is a completely different system than iOS, and one of the perhaps most known difference to the end users is that the drawing of the updated user interface doesn't have the highest priority when it comes to sorting what to do first in the core. The number of pixels alone is not what makes Android feel a bit laggy to some, and is anyway a factor that doesn't contribute much to it.

I prefer to think of it as my finger being a race car, and it takes the tires a moment of burnout before moving things along. While childish, this also makes scrolling so much more fun.

That's nice. :D
 

mib1800

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Android is a completely different system than iOS, and one of the perhaps most known difference to the end users is that the drawing of the updated user interface doesn't have the highest priority when it comes to sorting what to do first in the core. The number of pixels alone is not what makes Android feel a bit laggy to some, and is anyway a factor that doesn't contribute much to it.



That's nice. :D

Another word to describe Android is true multi-tasking. On iOS, if your finger is on the screen most data loading stops. It is really frustrating when you realized that the page loading has not progressed at all when you lift your finger off the screen after you done scrolling.

On Android data continues to load while you scroll making it better experience since you don't need to wait for page to load when you scroll further down the page.
 

Savor

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Jun 18, 2010
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Galaxy Nexus came from 2011.

Any flagship from 2012 and after feels like an upgrade. You will see improvements coming from iPhone 4s to iPhone 5s as well. Plus, GNex became laggy after 4.2.
 

kapolani

macrumors 6502
Feb 24, 2011
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So my Galaxy Nexus was becoming more and more unbearable to own as each day passed. The battery would only last me about 4/6 hours per charge(it has even left me stranded a few times :mad:). The lag was getting annoying, gps worked when it wanted to. The phone likes to heat up pretty quick and kill itself as quick as you can say unobtanium.
I've had it. I was dead set on the 5s, but i couldn't find one at a reasonable price so i found a mint iPhone 5 and i couldn't have been better. Even came with Applecare :cool:

So coming from the Galaxy Nexus back to the iPhone 5, it's just a breath of fresh air. The lag is gone, I can finally use my phone without worrying about the battery and not have to baby my usage. iOS 7 is actually pretty solid from what i've noticed so far. The display has to be another major plus coming from the Gnex. But the thing i love the most of the physical feel of the device. Nothing but a positive experience from the iPhone so far!

You and I had the same experience.

Had the Galaxy Nexus for the last 2 years. Rooted and Rom'd from day one.

Overall, Android is a good experience. But, lag and overall attention to detail isn't there, yet.

Lag, force closing of apps, random unresponsiveness that could only be cured by pulling the battery were some of the negatives.

Missed the integration with my other Mac products. Missed the integration with my wife's photostream.

Glad to be back. Hopefully they come out with bigger screens. That's what lured me away the first time.
 

DGPMaluco

macrumors regular
Nov 16, 2012
178
0
Back to iOS once again

Back in the day, they said Android lagged because its being emulated and not running right on the kernel, is this still true?
 
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