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Ernie11

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Apr 4, 2014
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Hello everyone. I have been trying to get this to work for a while now and im getting no where. When I had Mavericks I would have it backup to a .sparsebundle on my home server running windows xp. Now with yosemite no matter what I do I cant get it to work. I have made the sparsebundle with my local name and MAC address, then moved it to the backup folder on my windows xp server, I have tried mounting it, not mounting it, with SMB on and AFP on, with both off, with one on one off, I have tried to mount it straight into TM by doing "sudo tmutil setdestination /Volumes/Backups/"the name I gave it".sparsebundle and I get this error "Incompatible file system type: smbfs (error 45)", I tried without the .sparsebundle, nothing seems to work. Any ideas? Its a bit frustrating considering that I got it working on Mavericks on my first try with no problems at all. Thank you.

Ernie.
 
Ernie11 said:
Hello everyone. I have been trying to get this to work for a while now and im getting no where. When I had Mavericks I would have it backup to a .sparsebundle on my home server running windows xp. Now with yosemite no matter what I do I cant get it to work. I have made the sparsebundle with my local name and MAC address, then moved it to the backup folder on my windows xp server, I have tried mounting it, not mounting it, with SMB on and AFP on, with both off, with one on one off, I have tried to mount it straight into TM by doing "sudo tmutil setdestination /Volumes/Backups/"the name I gave it".sparsebundle and I get this error "Incompatible file system type: smbfs (error 45)", I tried without the .sparsebundle, nothing seems to work. Any ideas? Its a bit frustrating considering that I got it working on Mavericks on my first try with no problems at all. Thank you.

Ernie.
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I believe Apple removed backup over SMB in Yosemite. Backup over AFP still works though in Yosemite.

EDIT: Try this format for tumuli:

sudo tmutil setdestination "smb://<user>:<passoword>@<ip address>:/<backup hard drive name>"​

The above command requires that you have assigned a fixed IP address to the computer where the backup hard drive resides. You also need to have file sharing turned on on the other computer for the hard drive.
 
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I tried one more way. When I made the sparsebundle I made it with my local name and MAC address but also gave it a name. I tried to use the name this time and got this. Am I missing something? Seems closer than before.
(computer anme):~ Ernie$ sudo tmutil setdestination /Volumes/Black Diamond
Usage: tmutil setdestination [-a] mount_point
tmutil setdestination [-ap] afp://user[:pass]@host/share
 
Ernie11 said:
I tried one more way. When I made the sparsebundle I made it with my local name and MAC address but also gave it a name. I tried to use the name this time and got this. Am I missing something? Seems closer than before.
(computer anme):~ Ernie$ sudo tmutil setdestination /Volumes/Black Diamond
Usage: tmutil setdestination [-a] mount_point
tmutil setdestination [-ap] afp://user[:pass]@host/share
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See my suggestion in post #3 above.
 
Ernie11 said:
Hi Taz, I tried doing it that way too and all I got was ">" on my terminal.

I have Tuxera installed on my mac, could this be doing it?
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My mistake. I left off a closing quote. I fixed it, look at post #3 again.
 
I get this again:
Usage: tmutil setdestination [-a] mount_point
tmutil setdestination [-ap] afp://user[:pass]@host/share
I dont have a password so i leave it blank without the brackets. is that ok?
 
Ernie11 said:
I get this again:
Usage: tmutil setdestination [-a] mount_point
tmutil setdestination [-ap] afp://user[:pass]@host/share
I dont have a password so i leave it blank without the brackets. is that ok?
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Do you have sharing setup on the windows machine?

According to the man page for tmutil:
setdestination [-ap] arg
Configure a local HFS+ volume or AFP share as a backup destina-
tion. Requires root privileges.

When the -a option is provided, arg will be added to the list of
destinations. Time Machine will automatically choose a backup
destination from the list when performing backups. When the -a
option is not provided, the current list of destinations will be
replaced by arg.

If you wish to set an HFS+ volume as the backup destination, arg
should be the mount point of the volume in question. When setting
an AFP destination arg takes the form:

afp://user[: pass]@host/share

In the AFP case, the password component of the URL is optional;
you may instead specify the -p option to enter the password at a
non-echoing interactive prompt. This is of particular interest to
the security-conscious, as all arguments provided to a program
are visible by all users on the system via the ps tool.
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This gives me the impression that you can't use SMB for this purpose.
 
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Taz Mangus said:
Do you have sharing setup on the windows machine?
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I can see the folder and file on my mac computer, I put the sparsebundle in the folder from my mac to the windows computer through the shared folder.

Edit: I see lots of articles on how to do this with Mavericks and under but non with Yosemite.
 
Well if anyone knows a work around, it would be really appreciated if you shared it.

Ernie.
 
Ernie11 said:
Just found this. Seems im out of luck. Its the supported disks for TM. I dont understand though why it could be done with Mavericks and under but not Yosemite, makes no sense.
https://support.apple.com/kb/PH18842?locale=en_IS&viewlocale=en_US
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When I was running Mavericks I was doing a network backup from my MacBook Pro to my iMac, which has a Time Machine hard drive on it. The article you posted is how it worked. I simply mounted the network hard drive on the MacBook Pro and selected it in Time Machine preferences.

When I switched to Yosemite I was not able to do that any longer. I had to use the command: tumutil setdestination -ap "afp://...". Point being, it appears that the document is not correct for Yosemite. This is the part I am referring to:
The AFP disk must also be “mounted” (available to your Mac) during the set up of Time Machine. After you select the network disk in Time Machine preferences as a backup disk, Time Machine automatically mounts the disk when it’s time to backup or restore your data.
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Im not sure. When yosemite came out to the public I updated and ever since I havent been able to do a backup this way. Im trying with Tuxera on and off and all the possible combinations with the SMB and AFP on and off. Nothing seems to work. I keep getting the same error.
 
Taz Mangus said:
I am curious as to how you use SMB to network backup using Time Machine.
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I got it working! I dont know how but I did. I kept making more sparsebundles and repeating and repeating and using tmutil over and over again and it appeared. Its backing up now. My settings ended up being: tuxera on(if this made any difference at all), AFP on and SMB on. Now I have to get ride of all those sparsebundles in my trash. Thanks for all help taz.
 
Ernie11 said:
I got it working! I dont know how but I did. I kept making more sparsebundles and repeating and repeating and using tmutil over and over again and it appeared. Its backing up now. My settings ended up being: tuxera on(if this made any difference at all), AFP on and SMB on. Now I have to get ride of all those sparsebundles in my trash. Thanks for all help taz.
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Not that I did much to help, glad it turned out working for you.
 
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