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ivnj

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I want to try Sonoma. I have Mac mini m1 2020 (8gb ram 256ssd) which is compatible. 8gb is enough for me. Clean install is the best. Buy have to backup first. Carbon Copy Cloner really screwed me up last time and had to goto Apple Store to reset it. What do you guys do to backup? Time Machine builtin or some other program? Or just manually? Maybe just the user folder with my photos and videos, etc. And any other documents. I don't care about settings and have not too many programs installed. Clean install would be the best. Upgrade probably too many leftover files or bugs. Or is upgrading working for most of you?
 

ivnj

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I tried Backup Guru LE from the store. So far so good. It does not do system files but I don't care so not bad. Except it says the free App Store version does not do system files but right now the system folder is being backed up. Not sure why.
 

ivnj

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Everything backed up. Except I have 54 apps in my Applications folder on my internal drive. But only 14 apps copied to my external. If I try to manually copy the apps over they don't and instead just copy the icon with an arrow at the bottom like when you make an alias. I thought app store apps don't copy over but fantastical calendar from the app store copied over. So it not that. Some apps just don't want to copy over.
 

ivnj

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Also if I boot into an external with Monterey on it and the goto Macintosh HD (internal ssd) and then goto the applications folder it shows 14 apps only. Not the 54 it shows if I boot directly into the internal hdd with Ventura. Why only 14 apps show. Same with my other externals. Booting from Ventura and looking in the Monterey or Big Sur external I have only show a fraction of the apps I have. Why is that?
 

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The applications “missing” are Apple provided applications and are included in the macOS system volume. The system and user data volumes appear as a single volume to end users. I’m simplifying things a lot to answer your question. If you are interested in very technical details, search for “macOS signed system volume works”.

As for backups, I’ve never had a problem using Time Machine to backup, restore, or migrate.
 
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ivnj

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I installed sonoma. But it upgraded and did not clean install. When I use disk utility even in recovery mode it says erase and eestart. Why not just erase? Why restart? If I restart then I cant get bsck in or boot up. I know because I did that before and it just blinked orange light and wouldnt let me back in.
 
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