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Vanillabn

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How do mobile users keep a backup of their cloud files (DropBox, Google Drive, Apple Cloud etc) without owning a computer?
Is there a consumer subscription to a backup service available?
 

chabig

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How do mobile users keep a backup of their cloud files (DropBox, Google Drive, Apple Cloud etc) without owning a computer?
Is there a consumer subscription to a backup service available?
Since those files are stored in the cloud, I would argue that you don't really need a personal backup.
 
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Vanillabn

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Thanks for the responses. :)i guess I’m curious if an account is ever not accessible (forgotten password/two factor etc), and is it leaving a lot of trust in one corporation to keep files safe.
 

chabig

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Thanks for the responses. :)i guess I’m curious if an account is ever not accessible (forgotten password/two factor etc), and is it leaving a lot of trust in one corporation to keep files safe.
I’m with you on that, so I keep personal backups from my Mac. But since you don’t have a computer I think you’ve made your choice. I don’t think it can be done with just a mobile device.
 

Vanillabn

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It’s good food for thought for someone to create a service/solution. With technology rapidly moving cloud based and more mobile, it can’t just stop here. ? Buying a computer just to keep backups is strange when it’s not needed.
 

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Re: can't access account: I've replicated some of my Dropbox files to a Box account after Dropbox went off-line for a good part of the day once. But those files are pretty static, for reference items, and is easily replicated via rsync command on my Mac once a quarter.

With iPad, guess can buy an external drive and copy files to it. Have not done in a while, but can see where that can become a pain to remember to do it occasionally, download and "share" the files, etc. Seem to recall some threads where some have had issue with external drives on their iPads.
 
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Vanillabn

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Wow. I didn’t even know a hard drive could be used with an iPad. Cheaper than having to buy a laptop for $1200 just to sit for backups, but yes, a pain to drop files to it.
 

rui no onna

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Wow. I didn’t even know a hard drive could be used with an iPad. Cheaper than having to buy a laptop for $1200 just to sit for backups, but yes, a pain to drop files to it.

You don't need a $1200 laptop just for backups. Even my 8-year old laptop handles backups just fine (including iTunes device backups).
 

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Since those files are stored in the cloud, I would argue that you don't really need a personal backup.

Cloud storage is not a backup. Cloud storage is just using someone else’s computer. Sure, they make reduce the risk of data loss due to a hardware failure (as ideally their systems have redundancy on the hardware level), but they don’t protect you from accidentally deleting files, ransomware, and a host of other issues that would make a backup very important to have.

It’s good food for thought for someone to create a service/solution. With technology rapidly moving cloud based and more mobile, it can’t just stop here. ? Buying a computer just to keep backups is strange when it’s not needed.

You can use a NAS to handle this. Synology, QNAP, and others have cloud sync and backup utilities.

For my iCloud Drive I use Time Machine on my Mac to back it up. But it also doesn’t store serious stuff for me. The serious stuff is stored on my 70TB storage array. I access that via SMB and it is backed up heavily.

Definitely take backups seriously. Data loss isn’t fun.
 

rui no onna

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You can use a NAS to handle this. Synology, QNAP, and others have cloud sync and backup utilities.

For my iCloud Drive I use Time Machine on my Mac to back it up. But it also doesn’t store serious stuff for me. The serious stuff is stored on my 70TB storage array. I access that via SMB and it is backed up heavily.

Definitely take backups seriously. Data loss isn’t fun.

Really? You have redundant copies of all 70TB?

Personally, I only have less than 2TB that's at least triplicated. The rest of the data on my 20TB server is just Blu-ray rips so I haven't bothered with fully redundant copies of those.
 

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Really? You have redundant copies of all 70TB?

Personally, I only have less than 2TB that's at least triplicated. The rest of the data on my 20TB server is just Blu-ray rips so I haven't bothered with fully redundant copies of those.
All data except my blu-ray rips are redudently backed up daily with a weekly archival backup to LTO tape in place.

I have 30TB of storage dedicated to holding these redundant daily backups with 2 weeks kept here.

Macs are a bit separate in that they have a dedicated 8TB of backup storage for Time Machine running on a Synology NAS. But ”important” data on my Macs are placed on a SMB file share that gets it incorporated into my other backup strategy.

Every server, computer, phone, iPad, etc in my house is subject to this backup regime.

More complex than most, but either way people should definitely take backups seriously.
 
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Vanillabn

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All data except my blu-ray rips are redudently backed up daily with a weekly archival backup to LTO tape in place.

I have 30TB of storage dedicated to holding these redundant daily backups with 2 weeks kept here.

Macs are a bit separate in that they have a dedicated 8TB of backup storage for Time Machine running on a Synology NAS. But ”important” data on my Macs are placed on a SMB file share that gets it incorporated into my other backup strategy.

Every server, computer, phone, iPad, etc in my house is subject to this backup regime.

More complex than most, but either way people should definitely take backups seriously.
Agreed. Backups are important…thus the question. ?? It’s still odd to me that there are not more widely known backup solutions for average mobile consumers.
 

rui no onna

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It still means buying a laptop just to sit on a shelf for weekly backups. ;-)

Not necessarily. Synology and QNAP both have cloud sync features for their NAS that work with most providers apart from Apple iCloud.

As far as a commercial service that is also in the cloud, I kinda don't see it happening. The built-in redundancies on the major cloud storage providers are good enough for most users. I don't think your average mobile consumer will be willing to pay yet another subscription cost for backing up Google Drive/iCloud/OneDrive/Dropbox/AWS.

Personally, it'll be difficult to trust yet another cloud storage service provider and I'd still want a couple of local copies anyway.
 
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