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Like the title says, I'm noticing that my early 2015 MacBook Air's battery is draining while in clamshell since updating to 10.15.6. Have tried twice to reset SMC on the laptop but it keeps happening. Don't have any apps that keep the machine awake while it's closed in clamshell mode. Is anyone confronting a similar issue on their notebook since the last update?
 

Taz Mangus

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Create a clean new user, restart the computer, login to the new user account. Try the closing the lid from the new user account and see if the battery drain issue still happens.
 

Jaber Alasfar

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The update 15.10.6 ruins the sleep mode it was stable at 15.10.5 i tried everything to fix the issue that keeps my iMac from sleeping nothings work so far
Apple should listen and address this issue
 

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The update 15.10.6 ruins the sleep mode it was stable at 15.10.5 i tried everything to fix the issue that keeps my iMac from sleeping nothings work so far
Apple should listen and address this issue
Thanks for confirming that I’m not crazy. Everything worked fine before that. It’s not the battery because I keep getting the status as normal for it.
 

Jaber Alasfar

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Thanks for confirming that I’m not crazy. Everything worked fine before that. It’s not the battery because I keep getting the status as normal for it.
You're welcome, Try resetting Bluetooth it worked for me and it seems to solve the issue
 

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You're welcome, Try resetting Bluetooth it worked for me and it seems to solve the issue

Can you explain me how you did it? Didn't even knew one could reset bluetooth on a Mac. The only thing I know to do is turn off the radio or unpair all the devices. This sleep problem while in clamshell mode is driving me nuts.
 

Taz Mangus

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Can you explain me how you did it? Didn't even knew one could reset bluetooth on a Mac. The only thing I know to do is turn off the radio or unpair all the devices. This sleep problem while in clamshell mode is driving me nuts.

 

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The update 15.10.6 ruins the sleep mode it was stable at 15.10.5 i tried everything to fix the issue that keeps my iMac from sleeping nothings work so far
Apple should listen and address this issue
Yet another statement, which is just too broad generalization. 10.15.6 works fine on all Apple notebooks in my family and on most devices very likely, or we would hear lot more about this. Upgrade broke something on your specific machine. It happens, should not (I agree!), but does. Unluckily, it usually breaks something else on different machines. Again, I agree upgrade by .1 should not break sleep or anything else. But these things are getting so complicated, that it does. And since we know nothing about a specific machine which is broken, your experience may or may not help. In any case, "Apple should listen and address this issue" is not going to happen, unless there are thousands of devices having SAME issues. And there likely are not.
There are no quick fixes which would guaranteed work. Here are some suggestions what to try:
1. Backup. Check you backup and make separate, new backup. Not TimeMachine only, but bootable backup using Carbon Copy Cloner. Test the backup and boot on it (you may have to enable that in firmware, Google it).
2. Reset SMC and PRM. Google it.
3. Download full installer of 10.15.6 from Apple AppStore! and reinstall "in place" should take hour or so and should not change your applications and data.
4. Create a new user and see, if it happens when you are running as new user. If not, something you are loading in your user account causes that. Either remove what you are loading (testing required) or move yourself to that new account and add your applications and customization there. Do it slowly and see, if at some point it breaks again.
5. Boot from external drive (you may need to enable this in firmware) and wipe the internal drive and install fresh new version of 10.15.6. This will remove your data, check the backups are up to date and work.
a. If the sleep is still broken, with clean system, it is hardware problem (or SMC/PRM, but those were reset in step2). Talk to Apple, get them to replace your machine.
b. Works? Migrate account back. If it stops working, some application or customization is breeaking it. You need to find what. Too many options what can be broken. kext of some old application, drivers for something, some application refusing to sleep, iCloud, Photos, keychain. No way for Apple to fix this as it is very specific for you.
 

Jaber Alasfar

macrumors newbie
Mar 4, 2020
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Yet another statement, which is just too broad generalization. 10.15.6 works fine on all Apple notebooks in my family and on most devices very likely, or we would hear lot more about this. Upgrade broke something on your specific machine. It happens, should not (I agree!), but does. Unluckily, it usually breaks something else on different machines. Again, I agree upgrade by .1 should not break sleep or anything else. But these things are getting so complicated, that it does. And since we know nothing about a specific machine which is broken, your experience may or may not help. In any case, "Apple should listen and address this issue" is not going to happen, unless there are thousands of devices having SAME issues. And there likely are not.
There are no quick fixes which would guaranteed work. Here are some suggestions what to try:
1. Backup. Check you backup and make separate, new backup. Not TimeMachine only, but bootable backup using Carbon Copy Cloner. Test the backup and boot on it (you may have to enable that in firmware, Google it).
2. Reset SMC and PRM. Google it.
3. Download full installer of 10.15.6 from Apple AppStore! and reinstall "in place" should take hour or so and should not change your applications and data.
4. Create a new user and see, if it happens when you are running as new user. If not, something you are loading in your user account causes that. Either remove what you are loading (testing required) or move yourself to that new account and add your applications and customization there. Do it slowly and see, if at some point it breaks again.
5. Boot from external drive (you may need to enable this in firmware) and wipe the internal drive and install fresh new version of 10.15.6. This will remove your data, check the backups are up to date and work.
a. If the sleep is still broken, with clean system, it is hardware problem (or SMC/PRM, but those were reset in step2). Talk to Apple, get them to replace your machine.
b. Works? Migrate account back. If it stops working, some application or customization is breeaking it. You need to find what. Too many options what can be broken. kext of some old application, drivers for something, some application refusing to sleep, iCloud, Photos, keychain. No way for Apple to fix this as it is very specific for you.
Thank you for your reply my issue is very weird and I'm not generalizing the issue for others but I shared my experience
My weird problem is
My iMac wakes up from sleep every Sunday MORNING
Without any changes from my settings and apps the problem returns after the latest update
Remember that the latest update addressed the issue of sleep mode for 2020 iMac which it wakes up with washed out colors
 
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