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macguy360

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Here’s why…

60% brightness on 12” pro is still 600 nits brightness vs 360 nits at 60% on 2020 iPad Pro.

The main recommendation for saving power on iPads has always been to decrease brightness. The fact that at 60% brightness you will still be at equivalent 100% is a huge advantage and will result in major battery longevity. I for one would always keep brightness at 100% on my 2028 iPad Pro and so I expect I will still be happy at 60% on the new pro.
 

LogicalApex

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100% brightness all the time would blind me...

That being said... We'll see wha the battery numbers are when they are in hands. There is the power demand increase of Mini-LED to account for as well.
 

macguy360

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Battery life on the 2028 iPad Pro is like 30 hours of SoT though, so how can you compare it to the 2021 version?

BTW, the Titor Council is not going to be happy about you talking about the future on message boards!
Are you referring to John Titor?
 

ZombiePete

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Man, it’s been a while since he has been brought up. Fascinating stuff… what is this titor council you speak of? Never heard of it.
I’m not quite sure if you’re messing with me now or not, but the joke was that you mentioned a 2028 iPad in your original post so I was suggesting that a time travel authority from the future was going to be upset that you were discussing future technology on a message board.
 
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Digitalguy

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Here’s why…

60% brightness on 12” pro is still 600 nits brightness vs 360 nits at 60% on 2020 iPad Pro.

The main recommendation for saving power on iPads has always been to decrease brightness. The fact that at 60% brightness you will still be at equivalent 100% is a huge advantage and will result in major battery longevity. I for one would always keep brightness at 100% on my 2028 iPad Pro and so I expect I will still be happy at 60% on the new pro.
This is wrong, 100% brightness is still 600 nits (higher brightness is only for HDR content)
 

maflynn

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Here’s why…

60% brightness on 12” pro is still 600 nits brightness vs 360 nits at 60% on 2020 iPad Pro.

The main recommendation for saving power on iPads has always been to decrease brightness. The fact that at 60% brightness you will still be at equivalent 100% is a huge advantage and will result in major battery longevity. I for one would always keep brightness at 100% on my 2028 iPad Pro and so I expect I will still be happy at 60% on the new pro.
Any talk about potential battery life is pure speculation. I have no doubts that we'll see great results but until people get them in their hands, its just guesses ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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I would personally keep brightness on Auto or at about 50%, as running it at 100% might just burn your eyes, as these screens are big and bright to start with. ??‍♂️
 

Tsepz

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That should be pretty incredible,even more reason to go for the 12.9 2021 or if one prefers 11” maybe skip this release and get 11” MiniLED in 2022.

That is something I always noticed with iPads, the screen brightness is an incredible determination of your mileage, I think the iPad 4 was one of the best battery life iPads I have ever had, the Air 2 is probably the worst and 2020 iPad Pro 11” is somewhere in the middle depending on usage and brightness, if I use my 2020 iPP at about 50-80% Brightness I got a lot of milage but if I sit at 90%-100% I will see significantly greater drain, so I keep it at 80%.
 

pdoherty

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Here’s why…

60% brightness on 12” pro is still 600 nits brightness vs 360 nits at 60% on 2020 iPad Pro.

The main recommendation for saving power on iPads has always been to decrease brightness. The fact that at 60% brightness you will still be at equivalent 100% is a huge advantage and will result in major battery longevity. I for one would always keep brightness at 100% on my 2028 iPad Pro and so I expect I will still be happy at 60% on the new pro.
(pet peeve alert). there is no 12” iPad Pro. If you’re going to round the size it’s literally 1/10th of one inch from being 13”
 

macguy360

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This is wrong, 100% brightness is still 600 nits (higher brightness is only for HDR content)
Actually, according to specs 100% brightness is 1000 nits and peak brightness is 1600 nits (for HDR). Look at the specs on Apple's website.

So what I originally said is correct, the iPad 12.9" at 60% is the same as the 2020 iPad Pro 12.9" at 100%. Battery life will be significantly better on the 2021 12.9" iPad Pro for most people vs the 2020 as the 2021 has the capability of being much brighter at lower % brightness.
 

macguy360

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Car is nice; runs great and the tech inside is amazing.

The wheels are crazy expensive though.

I didn't even realize that I made a typo with the 2028 iPad thing lol. While John Titor is interesting, I Find real science to be way more interesting. For instance


Cern literally talks about other dimensions. Or if you have time to look up videos of the founder of d-wave, he has talks where he mentions he believes quantum computers harness computing power of other dimensions.

We don't need some d-bag posting on a forum acting like he's from the future when we have real life tech so scary and real that we can read about.
 

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Actually, according to specs 100% brightness is 1000 nits and peak brightness is 1600 nits (for HDR). Look at the specs on Apple's website.

That's not quite the full picture.

Apple's specs for the 12.9" XDR gives three measurements: "600 nits max brightness (typical)" and then on a separate line "1,000 nits max full-screen brightness; 1,600 nits peak brightness (HDR)". This indicates to me that the 1,000 and 1,600 levels only kick in for a very specific use case: when HDR video is playing.

Apple also gives a similar breakdown for the big daddy Pro Display XDR and for that display the maximum user selectable brightness is 500 nits:

figured out the "full truth" of the brightness levels on the XDR. So in standard display mode (even when set to HDR 1600 nits) the max nits is actually around 500. The same/similar to the iMac 5K screens. The 1,000 sustained nits only comes into play when watching actual HDR content, using the HDR 1,600 mode.

For anyone wondering, I did determine that the Pro Display XDR is, in fact, only able to display brightnesses over 500 nits when displaying actual HDR content (which for most users, is not something we come across very often). As a photographer, this is disappointing. iPhone photos are HDR and therefore can display up to 1600 nits, while RAW photos from my high end camera are locked at 500 nits. I don't really understand why the display works this way, and for people who edit HDR video footage for a living I'm sure it's fantastic, but for me it's kind of a let down.

To be clear, I'm not saying I think it's in any way a bad display, but when one of the main selling points appears to be the brightness, I feel like it's disingenuous for Apple to not more adequately communicate that for most people the brightness is locked at 500 nits 99% of the time.

For the 12.9", using the display at 1,000 nits+ may have a significant impact on battery life and in terms of heat which is why Apple might only enable it for short bursts such as during an HDR movie. While its certainly possible Mini LED might have some benefits for battery life, I think speculating that battery life will be "much better" is premature.
 
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