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edulterado

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I have replaced the original battery on my MacBook Pro 15" mid 2015 2.8GHz iGPU (macbookpro11,4). The manual process I went trough was more straightforward and cleaner than I had expected: in my case, the adhesive was easily removed by applying a small quantity of a soft dissolvent with a syringe (2ml isopropyl alcohol) and a twine thread I had in the kitchen for cooking beef rolls. I couldn't be happier with the results.

The new battery is working like a charm. However, manufacture date and battery temperature, as it can be read with Sensei, Coconutbattery or Aldente, are not shown correctly. The data reported seems to be same of the old battery, so that I tried to clear SMC settings.

First thing I tried was a SMC and PRAM reset. It didn't work. Later I disconnected the battery and pressed and held the power button for a good 15 secs. Then I plugged-in MagSafe charger and restarted the system. I did this in two different ways: firstly, by holding the power button while connecting the charger during 10 secs more, and secondly, by releasing it after connecting the charger. In both cases the booting process got stuck in a loop: Apple logo and progress bar appear, but it re-starts after a while.

Any help with this would be very much appreciated.
 
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Fishrrman

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So long as the battery charges properly, and the proper "charge amount" is shown in the menu bar, I wouldn't worry about the manufacture date or even the temperature.

If it works... use it.
 
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edulterado

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So long as the battery charges properly, and the proper "charge amount" is shown in the menu bar, I wouldn't worry about the manufacture date or even the temperature.

If it works... use it.
Sure, that was also my first thought. Yet I'd like to prevent the battery from charging when its temperature is above 35º, which I can do with Aldente. The temperature now is at 26,3º (forever)...
 

Bigwaff

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The new battery is working like a charm. However, manufacture date and battery temperature, as it can be read with Sensei, Coconutbattery or Aldente, are not shown correctly. The data reported seems to be same of the old battery,
From where did you source the new battery? Make and specs?
 
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Apathist

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The data reported seems to be same of the old battery ...

If it's not an issue with the battery itself, as Bigwaff suggests, you might try completely re-installing coconutBattery or one of the other battery apps. Perhaps they're simply retaining legacy data and preventing further updates.

I had something similar happen with coconutBattery's history when I migrated it from one MacBook to another. The app retained the old machine's history and refused to log data for the new battery.

OTOH, it seems unlikely that 3 different apps would exhibit the same unexpected behavior. But maybe worth a try.
 
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edulterado

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From where did you source the new battery? Make and specs?

Source: UK seller from eBay —It claimed to be OEM, I didn't relied too much on that though.

Manufactured by Simplo. There seems to be a discrepancy in the specs: design capacity is 8755mAh, as reported in Coconutbattery, whereas full charge capacity is 9203mAh... which likely suggests that battery chips may have been manipulated.

This is my first time installing a new battery on a MacBook Pro mid 2015.
So, there is no need to do any extra tweak for the new battery to show manufacture date and temperature?
 

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edulterado

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If it's not an issue with the battery itself, as Bigwaff suggests, you might try completely re-installing coconutBattery or one of the other battery apps. Perhaps they're simply retaining legacy data and preventing further updates.

I had something similar happen with coconutBattery's history when I migrated it from one MacBook to another. The app retained the old machine's history and refused to log data for the new battery.

OTOH, it seems unlikely that 3 different apps would exhibit the same unexpected behavior. But maybe worth a try.

Re-installed coconutBattery as suggested, and now manufacture date is "unknown".
Temperature remains constant at 26.4º (same data is shown by Sensei and Aldente).

Thank you for your suggestion.
 

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edulterado

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Still nothing.

Is there any suggestion of third party battery replacements, in addition to OWC and iFixit, that allows the system to monitor battery temperature and aging?
 

edulterado

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Post screenshot of window appearing when you press "Battery Info..." button...

After installing Mojave, I checked coconutBattery and now manufacture date is shown correctly. However, temperature is stuck at the same data.

I'd read a costumer review of a similar battery for the same model listed on Amazon, who contacted technical support for the same problem like mine, and they said that macOS 10.15 and beyond can't read properly temperature and manufacture data in third party batteries.

That may explain why Mojave is showing the information correctly, whereas it was missing in Monterey.
 

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wordsworth

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For your possible future reference, Duracell Direct in the UK, online, sells 2-Power batteries for all manner of older laptops including a very many MacBooks and these seem to be very well made and reputable.

I have found from experience that replacing a battery on an older laptop is potentially fraught with peril (with Amazon, eBay sellers etc in fact often selling inadequate products that may also prove potentially dangerous).

It seems to be my ‘thing’ these days to post on Mac Rumors extolling the virtues of these 2-Power batteries, due mainly to my own efforts to find a reliable battery for a 2009 MacBook some years back. I'd checked out the marketplace and customer comments for months, even a couple of years, all told, and was unconvinced by the reliability of any – until I discovered the Duracell Direct website and was more convinced by their sales pitch for the 2-Power batteries. You pay more for them than for many/most ‘competitors’ though that is as it ought to be when they are in fact the real deal. Not much point in paying half the price for something that doesn’t last the week (which happened to me before my 2-Power find and acquisition).

I usually declare, too, in my posts that I have no connection with Duracell Direct (which is not the actual battery brand itself but able to trade with that name) or 2-Power. I just like sharing this potentially useful information!

Hopefully your own recent purchase and replacement will work out in the longer term for you though.
 
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Alpha Centauri

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For your possible future reference, Duracell Direct in the UK, online, sells 2-Power batteries for all manner of older laptops including a very many MacBooks and these seem to be very well made and reputable.

I have found from experience that replacing a battery on an older laptop is potentially fraught with peril (with Amazon, eBay sellers etc in fact often selling inadequate products that may also prove potentially dangerous).

It seems to be my ‘thing’ these days to post on Mac Rumors extolling the virtues of these 2-Power batteries, due mainly to my own efforts to find a reliable battery for a 2009 MacBook some years back. I'd checked out the marketplace and customer comments for months, even a couple of years, all told, and was unconvinced by the reliability of any – until I discovered the Duracell Direct website and was more convinced by their sales pitch for the 2-Power batteries. You pay more for them than for many/most ‘competitors’ though that is as it ought to be when they are in fact the real deal. Not much point in paying half the price for something that doesn’t last the week (which happened to me before my 2-Power find and acquisition).

I usually declare, too, in my posts that I have no connection with Duracell Direct (which is not the actual battery brand itself but able to trade with that name) or 2-Power. I just like sharing this potentially useful information!

Hopefully your own recent purchase and replacement will work out in the longer term for you though.
I had 3rd party insurance for my 2009er MBP that covered batteries also but last few years they struggled to supply and guarantee any batteries. So is 2-Power then the type or manufacturer that Duracell Direct supplies? Just asking for future reference, as that particular MBP has become financially not viable for the insurer.
 
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