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Virgil-TB2

macrumors 65816
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Aug 3, 2007
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Am I the only one that's upset about the changes (basically dozens of really annoying blinky ads), to the BBC website?

I live in Canada, but I grew up on the Beeb and have visited the BBC News website first thing in the morning almost everyday since they started. Yesterday I deleted my bookmarks for BBC News and sent them a letter telling them why I no longer will be visiting their site.

I know lots of sites have adverts, but the BBC mostly publicly funded and is breaking a long, long tradition of never having adverts.

And why so many? And on the Front Page? And all animated? They have gone from zero adverts to what looks like sucking up about 45% of the screen real estate overnight! ARgh! :mad:

I can't help but think that this has something to do with the fact that all those Microsoft executives now run things over there.
 

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gifford

macrumors 6502
Jun 11, 2007
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Miserable England
I couldnt agree more.
I was practically addicted to the BBC channel and website, now I couldnt give a damn if the whole thing was scrapped.
The programing has become extremely poor, and it is now just a propaganda tool for the government coupled with an extremely PC and left wing agenda.

Every time I turn TV on the BBC try telling me how to lead my life, what I should and should not be doing.
I dont want that in a TV station, I want entertainment and facts, strait up facts not bent truths, and dubious statistics to make me act like a model citizen.

I certainly dont wish to be forced to pay for it. Lets hope these adverts are the beginning of the end, or a new beginning of what was once a great TV broadcaster.
 

Sedulous

macrumors 68030
Dec 10, 2002
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I think if you go to bbc from anywhere other than the UK, you will now see ads.
 

gifford

macrumors 6502
Jun 11, 2007
422
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Miserable England
I forgot to mention the utterly crap Mac support, and MSFT centric technologies they insist on using. Not exactly an open non bias public service!

It's like two old dinosaurs watching a comet streak overhead.
 

northernmunky

macrumors 6502a
Jan 19, 2007
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London, Taipei
I forgot to mention the utterly crap Mac support, and MSFT centric technologies they insist on using. Not exactly an open non bias public service!

It's like two old dinosaurs watching a comet streak overhead.

In all fairness I've noticed just how anti-Apple the Beeb seems to be... its like they have an agreement with Microsoft to bash Apple at any opportunity that arises. The Leopard release was extremely sombre, the report was boring (which was entitled 'Leopard: Does it roar or whimper') and the explained Time Machine as a 'utility that rolls the computer back to a previous configuration' in an attempt to make it look like Windows did it first and make Leopard look like a non-issue.

When they are not doing that they are very quick to point its flaws the current front page of the BBC's technology section is a 28 paragraph report entitled 'End of the innocence for Mac fans' on the new trojan virus we're not having and a similar one about the firewall problem. :mad:

One of my favourite quotes is when they describe Macs as 'the things'... can't find the link now...
 

GSMiller

macrumors 68000
Dec 2, 2006
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Kentucky
Indeed fugly.

I used to visit BBC News several times a day, but since they're much slower to report news than CNN and even MSNBC I quit going. I would imagine the ads be heavily criticized if displayed to British visitors--their only real audience.
 

philbeeney

macrumors 6502
Jul 24, 2004
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Vankleek Hill
Anybody accessing the BBC website from an international ISP will see the adverts. All pages sent to UK ISP's will be advert free as UK users pay for the BBC services through the licence fee.

I do agree that some of the adverts i've seen do look pretty crap. I would much prefer a Google type textual advert rather than the Flash based monstrosities. Having said that, they only seem to appear on the main page. If you select any story, the adverts disappear until you go back to the main page.
 

gkarris

macrumors G3
Dec 31, 2004
8,301
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"No escape from Reality...”
I'm in the US, and I don't get any ads :confused:.

bbcamerica.com doesn't get any.

Here's the faq page and quotes:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc.com/faq/

You will have noticed that the BBC website features a limited amount of advertising when viewed from outside the UK.

That's the only alteration - the content of the site remains unchanged and continues to feature the same high quality journalism and entertainment that the BBC has always pioneered.

We've introduced advertising to visitors outside of the UK because the new revenue created will allow us to further improve our journalism, our programmes and our website in the years ahead.

Impartiality is of the utmost importance to us at the BBC and for this reason advertising will be clearly separated from editorial content. Advertising will not have any bearing on the news, information or programme content or create the impression of endorsement by the BBC.

We guarantee that you will continue to receive the same high-quality independent content that has made the BBC website one of the most popular news and entertainment sites in the world.

If you would like to know more about the inclusion of advertising on the site, please see our frequently asked questions.

Frequently Asked Questions

Apart from the inclusion of advertising, will there be any difference between the website that I see and the one that is seen by UK licence fee payers?
No. There are two versions of the website already - one gives prominence to UK news sport and weather, the other has a greater international focus and is aimed at international users. You can switch between these versions at any time. Advertising will be served on both versions when they are viewed from outside the UK.

How will you ensure that only ex-UK users will see advertisements?
The BBC already uses technology that identifies whether users come from outside the UK. This technology recognises the location of the user's computer and only serves adverts to those users who are outside the UK.

How reliable is the technology that does this?
An independent report found that it was 99.96% accurate. However, if you are a UK licence fee payer viewing the website from within the UK but can see advertising, please report this to us.

Why won't users in the UK see any ads?
Users in the UK fund the BBC through the licence fee, which entitles them to view and listen to all of the BBC's television, radio and digital services without advertising. The inclusion of advertising on the website when viewed from outside the UK will create revenues which can be used to develop better content and services for both UK and international users.

There are also advertisements before the video clips, is this just for international users too?
We recently upgraded our video on demand service for our users from outside the UK and they may see a short advertisement at the start of the video clip. Our aim is to allow as many people as possible to have access to our broadband-quality content, so rather than charge users to subscribe we decided that an advertising model was the best way to fund the upgrade.

Audiences in the UK already have access to the service in both narrowband and broadband. The service for the UK is funded by licence fee revenue and does not carry any advertising. In addition, audiences from outside the UK wishing to view the video clips without ads will still be able to access the narrowband service, which will continue to be available without advertising.

It's not Microsoft, it's because you're in Canada. :)
 

The Phazer

macrumors 68040
Oct 31, 2007
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London, UK
I know lots of sites have adverts, but the BBC mostly publicly funded and is breaking a long, long tradition of never having adverts.

The BBC's international television services have had adverts for over thirty years. Outside of the UK where there's no licence fee why shouldn't something be done to pay for the costs?

I can't help but think that this has something to do with the fact that all those Microsoft executives now run things over there.

Then you'd be wrong.

Phazer
 
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