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Museo12

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I use Logic on my Imac, but now I want to use it on Ipad also from launch next week. But I have not a Ipad. What is the most affordable Ipad to use it on? I have no problem to buy a used one. I think Ipad pro is to expensiv for me right now.
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Even the $329 base 9th generation iPad currently being sold should support it. The best compromise between price and performance of the current iPad lineup is probably the M1 iPad Air. It gives you most of the iPad Pro's features for less money.

A used iPad Pro with an A12X, A12Z, or M1 should all work, as would a used iPad Air with an A14 chip.

Logic officially requires an A12 or newer, but nobody knows yet how different the experience will be between, say, an A12X and M2.
 

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I use Logic on my Imac, but now I want to use it on Ipad also from launch next week. But I have not a Ipad. What is the most affordable Ipad to use it on? I have no problem to buy a used one. I think Ipad pro is to expensiv for me right now.
Thanks!
Will you be using a MIDI instrument with it?
 

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If you want 100% of the performance of the iPad Pro M1, the mentioned iPad Air M1 (5th gen) does that at a lower price - especially if you check retailers like Best Buy where I found mine for under 400 bucks. I would not have bought it at the initial launch price of $599 as that is really close to the iPad Pro pricing and you are looking for something cheaper too.

The M1 Air has the benefit of having overkill performance that you likely won't use to the full extent - but you might in a couple years as software like Logic Pro receives updates, new features and new iPadOS versions will also place more demand on the hardware.

There is this rule of thumb that you should buy hardware for your current requirements and not for future proofing. I personally believe the M1 Air is an exception as it can be had for as low as $359 (though getting that might be hard since you want to make the purchase immediately...) and the M1 chip is such a jump over any other non-Pro iPad that it all but guarantees it will last you a long time. As in, you don't have to look at upgrading before 2030. (Which is around the time I'd expect software support to start running out.)

Otherwise I'd probably get a 4th gen iPad Air, but they sell for at least $300 used... and Apple sells them for $469 in their own refurb store. (As good as new - new housing, new battery.) So in my opinion a M1 Air on sale will be much more value for about the same price.

I would not get a 10th gen regular iPad - it is more expensive than the 4th gen Air and performance is identical. I would not get a 9th gen regular iPad as it uses an older chip and is relatively slow. I had the 9th gen myself and even though it is plenty fast for daily tasks like office and listening to music, and some people will run Logic Pro on it, it's got very little memory, 3GiB. This means once you are running Logic Pro, you won't want to multitask and switch to other apps, as just a single "pro" application will task that iPad to the fullest.

I use my iPads intensively and I can tell you the 9th gen reaches its limits so quick you will notice slowdowns. If your priority is saving money, the 9th gen might still suffice for you. Not everyone needs things to be blazing fast, I recognize that some would even say they don't notice any performance issues whatsoever. But unless money is the priority, at least a used 4th gen iPad Air would be my preference.

A 9th gen struggles today already - a 10th gen or 4th gen iPad Air will be fine for a couple years but don't expect it to last just as long as the M1 Air. I bought it for future proofing and expect performance to last beyond 2030. And since I plan to use it for so long, the bit of money I spend extra in the beginning matters less.
 

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Yes I will. :)
Then also consider the possibility of a lightning iPad, which has a headphone jack and would mean you don't need to use USB C hub and possibly even an audio interface all the time.
I personally use an iPad mini, but also a 3rd gen air or 9th gen iPad would be fine.
If you go with a UBS C however consider if you want a larger screen. In that case a 12.9 from 2018 is plenty with A12X and 4GB RAM and can be found for relatively cheap. But again, you'll need a hub and ideally a small audio interface that works with iPad (do you have one already?)
Having said that, maybe it's best to wait for some reviews
 
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Totally forgot to think about the ports. With lightning I am only aware of Apple's Lightning-to-USB-A adapter. Even though you do get a headphone port, you can only additionally connect the charger, or a USB-A device. So imagine you want to attach both the charger and a USB-A device - how would that work?

With the USB-C iPads you give up the headphone port, but you can attach any USB-C hub to simultaneously get power plugged in and multiple USB devices. And there is a USB-C to headphone adapter that Apple provides to get back the missing headphone port.

To me, the single USB-C port seems more flexible.
 

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Totally forgot to think about the ports. With lightning I am only aware of Apple's Lightning-to-USB-A adapter. Even though you do get a headphone port, you can only additionally connect the charger, or a USB-A device. So imagine you want to attach both the charger and a USB-A device - how would that work?

With the USB-C iPads you give up the headphone port, but you can attach any USB-C hub to simultaneously get power plugged in and multiple USB devices. And there is a USB-C to headphone adapter that Apple provides to get back the missing headphone port.

To me, the single USB-C port seems more flexible.
The CCK 3.0 has a power port too, the 2.0 does not. There are also small devices like the Korg plugkey which have lightning to midi (plus charger and headphone jack). I have one but I believe it's not sold anymore...
The headphone adapter in UBS C hubs is not always great, hence the need for an audio interface...
 

Digitalguy

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@Digitalguy

do you use logic a lot? If yes, would you consider using it on the iPad or do you need a marc for it?
I don't use Logic at all but I use several music programs on Mac, Windows and iPad. And honestly the more I can use on the iPad the better. I much prefer to use them on the music rest of my piano so Macs are the last option, only Windows tablets and iPads work well there.
PS One thing I may add is that now that it is on iPad I might actually try Logic...
 
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I use Logic on my Imac, but now I want to use it on Ipad also from launch next week. But I have not a Ipad. What is the most affordable Ipad to use it on? I have no problem to buy a used one. I think Ipad pro is to expensiv for me right now.
Thanks!
Wont be surprised if the minimum requirements will be M1 CPU… so iPad Air 5.
That been said, even that im curious how Logic will work on iPads, if i had to buy mobile device for Logic, i would get M1 MBA instead.

@Digitalguy

do you use logic a lot? If yes, would you consider using it on the iPad or do you need a mac for it?
No one knows if Logic will be limited or not on iPads… but if you need to connect soundcard, midi devices and hardware, Mac (laptop or desktop) will be better choice.
 

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Keep in mind the iPad 10th gen -even at this more reasonable price- is limited to the same performance as the iPad Air 4 from 2020, epecially with the relatively low 4GiB of memory. This already limits the amount of apps that can run simultaneously today, and might limit some heavy apps today. For example Logic Pro does run on 4GiB, yet there isn't any 4GiB iPad model where Final Cut Pro is supported in the first place.

Buying a 4GiB model in 2023 is cutting it close - in my opinion. Others might say it's totally fine but I've been constantly running out on my older iPad so even though I haven't looked at any benchmarks, from my experience 4GiB are easily maxed out today. Hence my recommendation for the iPad Air 5 as that would double the memory from 4GiB to 8GiB at the lowest possible price especially on one of the very good sales from retailers, or used. They will eventually land in the Apple refurbished store too. (At the full $599 I consider it somewhat overpriced and I would not recommend it for that price.)
 

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Wont be surprised if the minimum requirements will be M1 CPU… so iPad Air 5.
That been said, even that im curious how Logic will work on iPads, if i had to buy mobile device for Logic, i would get M1 MBA instead.


No one knows if Logic will be limited or not on iPads… but if you need to connect soundcard, midi devices and hardware, Mac (laptop or desktop) will be better choice.
The minimum requirement is A12, and I doubt Apple makes a minimum requirement that is barely usable, contrary to some third parties (see Davinci Resolve)
As for Logic being limited or not, we'll know soon enough.
I don't agree that a Mac is a always better choice if you use external hardware. First of all, the iPad can sit on a music rest, contrary to a Mac, and can be operated with touch. A midi device is just a USB cable, with or without a USB C hub (which is pretty small), or a CCK, and if the device does not use USB you probably have a midi input on your audio interface already. And audio interfaces can be pretty small and again anyway it's just a USB cable. Another advantage of iPad is that due to their restrictive nature, they don't need anti-piracy dongles like iLok.
Having said that, I still like the simplicity of having a lightning iPad with a headphone jack, where you only need to plug your headphone and a midi device with a CCK or other lightning adapter.
 
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