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Beta7 - Can I install direct or is it still 6 upgrades ?
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Due to an Nvidia Web Driver issue, I needed to install PB5 again. I still had the original PB1 install icon my my SSD. I installed it then went to the App Store for PB5 and reinstalled onto PB1. No issue. I suspect you will find out the same thing.
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If you download the public beta installer through the App Store/Purchases tab, you get the (current) full install - takes you to build 15A262e in one install.
It apparently also includes the Recovery update, as I installed with that new full install 2 days ago, and no further updates are offered. (I did that because of some other issues that I was having, fixed with the full install.)
I also noticed that the Recovery partition was missing the option to disable SIP, and I think that was part of the new Recovery update, and that was the way that it installed from the current full install.
The sad part is that DP1 is no longer available. That version did something no other version of el capitan could do.
If you make a bootable usb of DP1 you CAN use it to repair permissions!
This was disabled in DP2, all subsequent developer previews and all the public betas including PB1.
So this is 1 luxury developers have that was never offered to public beta testers - to have at least 1 version of el capitan that lets you repair permissions.
Usually bootable usbs of developer previews become pretty useless once it is publicly released. This is an exception though. I will keep my El Capitan DP1 bootable usb even after public release and from time to time repair permissions!
If you make a bootable usb of DP1 you CAN use it to repair permissions!
This was disabled in DP2, all subsequent developer previews and all the public betas including PB1.
So this is 1 luxury developers have that was never offered to public beta testers - to have at least 1 version of el capitan that lets you repair permissions.
Usually bootable usbs of developer previews become pretty useless once it is publicly released. This is an exception though. I will keep my El Capitan DP1 bootable usb even after public release and from time to time repair permissions!
Old habits die hard...
Just curious - how often do your permissions go stale/die/break/whatever else that "happens" to permissions?
I used to do "Repair Disk Permissions" as a "feel good" measure, but stopped doing even that about 5 or 6 years ago. Didn't see a valid need, particularly when Apple had posted that you could ignore many of the reported "problems". Apparently Apple has decided now (partly because of SIP?) that manually "repairing" permissions is no longer relevant.
Just curious - how often do your permissions go stale/die/break/whatever else that "happens" to permissions?
I used to do "Repair Disk Permissions" as a "feel good" measure, but stopped doing even that about 5 or 6 years ago. Didn't see a valid need, particularly when Apple had posted that you could ignore many of the reported "problems". Apparently Apple has decided now (partly because of SIP?) that manually "repairing" permissions is no longer relevant.
Well some decisions at apple are based on opinions.
Many such opinions I disagree with.
Eg., dropping classic mode in leopard which supported mac os 9 apps. I've still got many useful mac os 9 apps and so run it in sheepshaver instead.
Dropping rosetta ppc app support in lion. So I run a vmware fusion virtual machine of snow leopard server instead and can therefore still run my ppc apps - even in el capitan!
Forcing core storage with yosemite and el capitan installations making my recovery partitions invisible in the startup manager. So I reverted them back to normal thereby making them visible in the startup manager.
The processors in many ios devices are good enough to run older mac os systems. So why not? So I jailbroke an ipod touch and can run system 7 on it.
And the trash can is SO BORING. Spruce it up a bit by bringing back the grouch trash can! Alas this only works in system 7. So not only do I run system 7 on my jailbroken ipod touch. I also have the grouch trash can on it!
So if they say repairing permissions in el capitan is no longer required - that's THEIR opinion. But my computer is MY computer. Not theirs. So I will make the decision whether or not I will repair permissions. And if I decide to do it, I can do it with the DP1 bootable usb. And apple can't stop me!
Sorry for the rant. I could go on and on for hours with many other things. But I'll stop there (for now .......)
Many such opinions I disagree with.
Eg., dropping classic mode in leopard which supported mac os 9 apps. I've still got many useful mac os 9 apps and so run it in sheepshaver instead.
Dropping rosetta ppc app support in lion. So I run a vmware fusion virtual machine of snow leopard server instead and can therefore still run my ppc apps - even in el capitan!
Forcing core storage with yosemite and el capitan installations making my recovery partitions invisible in the startup manager. So I reverted them back to normal thereby making them visible in the startup manager.
The processors in many ios devices are good enough to run older mac os systems. So why not? So I jailbroke an ipod touch and can run system 7 on it.
And the trash can is SO BORING. Spruce it up a bit by bringing back the grouch trash can! Alas this only works in system 7. So not only do I run system 7 on my jailbroken ipod touch. I also have the grouch trash can on it!
So if they say repairing permissions in el capitan is no longer required - that's THEIR opinion. But my computer is MY computer. Not theirs. So I will make the decision whether or not I will repair permissions. And if I decide to do it, I can do it with the DP1 bootable usb. And apple can't stop me!
Sorry for the rant. I could go on and on for hours with many other things. But I'll stop there (for now .......)
Seems that for some reasons (planned obsolescence), SIP can no longer be disabled through visible ways. Therefore, extra attention and effort is required in order to write files to protected system folders outside Mac OS X protection. Maybe, I need to manually install some certain apps in Yosemite, and copy those files to El Capitan?
By the way, never mind.
By the way, never mind.
I wonder, if there is still a way to disable SIP, when the option in recovery partition is gone?
I would also wonder how members can figure out this way to discuss without quoting others posts. Never mind, by the way.
And terminal option is not even an available option for me, because I didn't even turn SIP off though this terminal command. Never know why. Guess I will try to figure out after official release.
I tried everything since the first beta to disable it and never got an error message, but it always stays enabled. 