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jwolf6589

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Which is the best? During the days when the iPhone was only available on AT&T I used the Blackberry and still miss some of its features, but overall the iPhone is superior. But these days the Blackberry has vastly improved and may actually be a better product over the Android and Windows Phone operating systems. So what do you say?
 

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Moot point. Both Blackberry OS and Windows Phone OS are essentially dead. Very little to zero developer input. Global marketshare combined for both OS's is ~3%, with Windows Phone almost ⅔ of that.
 
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Windows Phone is actually quite an underrated mobile platform. The most common complaints has always been the lack of apps but it generally has 90% of what I consistently use or a decent alternative for it. You are getting "most" of the apps for a fraction of the price vs iOS and Android and running smoothly on low end hardware. WP is like the Sega Dreamcast and Sony PS Vita for mobile platforms. And the camera is generally stellar too.

With all that said, my preferences is like this -

Android
Windows Phone
iOS
BlackBerry OS
 
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jwolf6589

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Moot point. Both Blackberry OS and Windows Phone OS are essentially dead. Very little to zero developer input. Global marketshare combined for both OS's is ~3%, with Windows Phone almost ⅔ of that.

I bet the folks on crackberry.com disagree.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Android is the best ....Covers the whole spectrum on the choice of best to worst, of hardware and software.

WP and BB app selection is garbage. WP app selection is slowly getting better, at least with the big name apps. Installing and using Android apps on BB is hit or miss, more like 70% miss.

But speaking just on the OS itself. That's a hard one. The software design on WP is excellent, while the performance on BB OS is better and more practical. BB internet browser is still unmatched IMO.
 
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If I rank my favorite phone brands, LG and Nokia would be #1 & #2. They are the last two holdouts offering removable batteries. LG is quite innovative and try to think outside the box. G Flex 2 and V10 are underrated devices. While Nokia is now Microsoft, I think they are still a dependable brand. Moreso than Motorola. I love Nokia so much, I can't have a WP far from me.

Been using this $30 Lumia 640 and surprisingly took better photos than my other more expensive phones. Quality is better than iPhone 5 too. A 2015 entry level Lumia is in between 5 and 5s quality. Nothing to complain about in most areas too like battery life and speaker. You can still enjoy a platform like a Sega Dreamcast even with such a low installed base. To me, WP will have its own cult following thanks to the combination of underrated software and the last remnants of Nokia.
 

nj-morris

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Blackberry 10 is dead. They've already announced that all phones from now on will be Android. Plus, I used BlackBerry 10 for two years and hated it. I was getting terrible battery life, pretty much no apps available, the apps that were available were awful, and it had that damned notification LED that was bright as hell and couldn't be disabled.

As for Windows, I'm not an expert, but I definitely wouldn't recommend it. The latest Windows phones got bad reviews despite the revamping of Windows with Windows 10.
 

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Which is the best? During the days when the iPhone was only available on AT&T I used the Blackberry and still miss some of its features, but overall the iPhone is superior. But these days the Blackberry has vastly improved and may actually be a better product over the Android and Windows Phone operating systems. So what do you say?

As others have already pointed out Blackberry OS as we know it is essentially dead.

What Blackberry however will do, is going forward, base all future products on their Android OS skin. That being said, Blackberry's hardware output is practically stagnant with the Priv being their sole hardware release in well over a year.

The Blackberry priv, was definitely a revision 1 android handset and not without it share of problems both software and hardware. But was a good starting step, but one that was priced too high to gain much traction and not readily available.

Blackberry as a hardware company has found that MANY European carriers and stores are now unwilling to carry Blackberry devices as they simply do not sell.


Windows 10 Mobile is pretty much a horse on its last legs. With Microsoft retiring many of its mobile staff and with sales of the recent devices failing both at retail and critically (never have windows phones receives such poor reviews as the 950/950XL). Windows 10 mobile is littered with stability and app issues. Continuum offers an interesting prospect, but its likely a solution to a problem that no one really has or wants.

Currently the only way anyone could possibly think Blackberry OS or Windows Phone is offering a better product is if they actually haven't used anything else and have blinkers set to stun.
 
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jwolf6589

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As others have already pointed out Blackberry OS as we know it is essentially dead.

Blackberry will do going forward is focus all future products on their Android OS skin. That being said, Blackberry's hardware output is practically stagnant with the Priv being their sole hardware release in over a year.

The Blackberry priv, was definitely a revision 1 android handset and not without it share of problems both software and hardware. But was a good starting step, but one that was priced too high to gain much traction and not readily available.

Blackberry as a hardware company has found that MANY European carriers and stores are now unwilling to carry Blackberry devices as they simply do not sell.


Windows 10 Mobile is pretty much a horse on its last legs. With Microsoft retiring many of its mobile staff and with sales of the recent devices failing both at retail and critically (never have windows phones receives such poor reviews as the 950/950XL). Windows 10 mobile is littered with stability and app issues. Continuum offers an interesting prospect, but its likely a solution to a problem that no one really has or wants.

Currently the only way anyone could possibly think Blackberry OS or Windows Phone is offering a better product is if they actually haven't used anything else and have blinkers set to stun.

Yeah you are probably right. But I remember the day when BB was more readily available and more people used them. But those days have passed even though the BB of today is far better than the BB of those days.

BB is not even available on all networks like they used to be.
 

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Blackberry OS and Windows Phone aren't worth wasting your patience with IMO. The app selection is very limited, and increasing amounts of developers have been pulling support for their apps from those platforms. The "app gap" is a real thing and is the #1 reason why I would never use a BBRY or WP as a daily driver ever. I actually would love to try out WP, but the fact that there are no Google apps, apps I need, or games I like means that I won't be picking one up any time soon.

Android is the only way to go outside of iOS in my honest opinion. There is no tangible "app gap" or functionality decrease on Android.
 
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WP app selection might be limited, but besides native BB10 apps there are tons of Android ones you can get for your BlackBerry from the preinstalled Amazon Appstore, or an optional one.

And when you buy an App from Amazon, you normally can install it in any Android, BB10, Sailfish, Fire that you have. Not just Android, when you buy the same app from the Play store.
 

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He is not the CEO. And read again, he said "may", in the same way BlackBerry said they might stop making hardware altogether.

And Priv has not been a success so far. What BlackBerry users want is BB10.
There aren't enough BB users or even " potential" BB buyers to warrant making another BB 10 phone. Sorry, but Blackberry OS is dead.
 
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