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Why is it that blackberry users can stay online through MSN, AIM, Yahoo on their phones for FREE, and we have to pay for services like $10 beejive just to get 24/7 push notifications???? If there is something out there that can help us stay logged on for IM apps please help. Otherwise this just sucks ass
 
Why is it that blackberry users can stay online through MSN, AIM, Yahoo on their phones for FREE, and we have to pay for services like $10 beejive just to get 24/7 push notifications???? If there is something out there that can help us stay logged on for IM apps please help. Otherwise this just sucks ass

Yahoo Messenger for iPhone leaves you logged in for two weeks and has push notifications, as long as you don't log into Yahoo from elsewhere.

AIM has push notifications, not sure on specifics.

Don't know about MSN.
 
But why do bb users get this stuff for free for all IM apps and iPhone doesn't? I thought they were competing with BB
 
Just FYI, beejive costs more on blackberry. And most apps cost like 10x more on blackberry than their iPhone equivalent.
 
Go buy a blackberry then.

And Apple is not competing with Blackberry, Blackberry is competing with Apple.
 
But why do bb users get this stuff for free for all IM apps and iPhone doesn't? I thought they were competing with BB
While you have a point, $10 is nothing compared to what you'll end up paying over 24 months. It's not even 1%.
 
Go buy a blackberry then.

And Apple is not competing with Blackberry, Blackberry is competing with Apple.

Really. I hate when I blind person tries to lead the sighted. You always wind up walking into a brick wall
 
Personally I feel that the fault of the iPhone is the lack of a decent IM application, but the BlackBerry can't compete when it comes to media/games.

It all depends on what you want.

For me I need messaging, camera, media and games... im pretty screwed :D
 
Personally I feel that the fault of the iPhone is the lack of a decent IM application, but the BlackBerry can't compete when it comes to media/games.

It all depends on what you want.

For me I need messaging, camera, media and games... im pretty screwed :D

True, but the worlds business is conducted on Blackberry. Stand outside any corporate building (beside Apple) at lunch time and watch what the suits walk out with. Blackberry is for business. They may dabble with some sort of lame app store, but BBs bread and butter is email and corporations.
 
the point is....WHY apple hasn't come out with an integrated IM app built into the iPhone like blackberry does. iPhone is the best phone, and everything else. But an integrated IM app for MSN, AIM, Yahoo, etc. just seems like a basic necessity. And Beejive fulfills that, but for $10 where BB get it stock on their phone. Just seems unfair that's all.

Is there a way we can request an integrated IM app for iPhone to Apple? And if so, would they listen?
 
True, but the worlds business is conducted on Blackberry. Stand outside any corporate building (beside Apple) at lunch time and watch what the suits walk out with. Blackberry is for business. They may dabble with some sort of lame app store, but BBs bread and butter is email and corporations.
Because of the good push email thats why.

Other than that, I don't find anything all that appealing about blackberrys, and turns out soon I may be a Blackberry owner.
Is there a way we can request an integrated IM app for iPhone to Apple? And if so, would they listen?

Yes i'll find the link. But don't count on it, look at iChat. Only gmail and AIM/me support.
 
the point is....WHY apple hasn't come out with an integrated IM app built into the iPhone like blackberry does. iPhone is the best phone, and everything else. But an integrated IM app for MSN, AIM, Yahoo, etc. just seems like a basic necessity. And Beejive fulfills that, but for $10 where BB get it stock on their phone. Just seems unfair that's all.

Is there a way we can request an integrated IM app for iPhone to Apple? And if so, would they listen?

Good questions. I often wonder by some of the things Apple has done with the iphone, does any one at Apple really use the iphone like the posters on MR. I mean, how did Apple employees feel about no cut and paste, sms, mms, stereo bluetooth, etc., Apple empoyees and developers, some of them must of had a phone or pda before the iphone became a reality.
 
Because of the good push email thats why.

Other than that, I don't find anything all that appealing about blackberrys, and turns out soon I may be a Blackberry owner.

That is not the only reason why. Since I work with support for Blackberry issues everyday more I could go into greater detail, but that is not what this thread is about.
 
Can we sign an online petition?!?!!?!? HAHAHA!!! just an idea...
 
And Beejive fulfills that, but for $10 where BB get it stock on their phone. Just seems unfair that's all.
What is the name of the app that comes free on every BB that allows them to use AIM, Yahoo, etc? AFAIK, they only come with BB Messenger app, and that's just BB to BB messaging.

Did you know that Shazam, which lets you do unlimited tags on the iPhone, charges BB users $4.99/month for the same ability?
 
Beejive and WhatsApp are where it's at. Beejive is 9.99 now - I paid 15.99 when it was released. Be happy. WhatsApp is free. Get it while you can or regret it later. It's the next up and coming thing.

As for communication, these two are the BEST. Hands down. Beejive does it all. Aim, Yahoo, MSN, ICQ, Google, Jabber, Myspace IM, Facebook IM. All those.
 
True, but the worlds business is conducted on Blackberry. Stand outside any corporate building (beside Apple) at lunch time and watch what the suits walk out with. Blackberry is for business. They may dabble with some sort of lame app store, but BBs bread and butter is email and corporations.

It's amazing what can happen with a five-year head start. I'm also wondering where this scenario comes from. Why would you walk outside at lunch time to check e-mail on a wireless device? Isn't that what the faster, bigger computer inside does?

I also have to ask, who REALLY uses IM anymore aside from college students? Yeah, maybe it's used if you and everybody you know has a mobile device that supports it. But I think people are heavily migrating to Facebook, MySpace and text messages. If SMS wasn't so ridiculously expensive on most networks, AIM would probably be heavily devalued (a nice way to say "quite worthless").
 
It's amazing what can happen with a five-year head start. I'm also wondering where this scenario comes from. Why would you walk outside at lunch time to check e-mail on a wireless device? Isn't that what the faster, bigger computer inside does?

Nope, doesn't work that way. I am not sure what area you live or what your line of business is, but executives may receive 200 to 500 emails a day. I know this because in a former job I monitored their BB traffic along with other tech stuff. In my experience, they may get upset if Outlook or Lotus notes is not working on their desktop, but I must stop the earth from spinning if the BB is not getting mail, the roller ball is stuck, etc.
This is usually due to the fact that they are constantly going to meetings, and need to keep up to date on all that email. Go up in any coporate evelavtor at 7-9 AM or 5-7 PM and every and everyone with a BB is checking their mail. When I had to do BES (Blackberry Server) work, we have to make sure no user is using their BB at 10 or 11PM at night (even though they are home)
Users that go to other remote countries for vacation will call us up because they can't receive email. And I am talking about remote, off the beaten path places. I once worked for an Investment Bank firm in Wall Street area. If those guys have a BB problem and you don't fix it yesterday, they try to get you fired. That's just my experience.
If you got in 401ks, money in the markets, you should be glad those people responsible for that money are using secure encrypted BBs to conduct their business, and not what passes for encryption on an Iphone.

But for personal stuff, I want an iPhone, and can't wait until next year to see what Apple comes up with.:)
 
I also have to ask, who REALLY uses IM anymore aside from college students?

IM has morphed into a new medium. Now IM includes Twitter and Facebook. Just look at some of the new phones coming out the merge all the social/IM networks with contacts and messaging is all integrated into a single app so email/sms/im is all the same. I gotta think Apple is going to get into this game eventually.
 
I have the Bold and 3GS and Bold smokes the iphone.

The Blackberry is the best messaging device hands down. I work for a software company and support 3K Blackberrys and 1500 Iphones. Everyone agrees the Blackberry is a much better messaging device. Now for apps and multimedia the Iphone wins hands down. If I had to choose 1 it would be one of the hardest decisions ever so I carry both. i have beejive on both and although it is prettier on the iphone it works much better on the Bold. I have it on all the time and it truely runs in the background. FYI I am not biased towards either device they both have their ups and downs.
 
Problem solved:

WhatsApp Messenger

It's very much like BBM except for iPhones. It's free right now, but the devs say they may start charging for it soon.

I was reading about this and it says it works internationally, but would it cost extra to message someone in a different country? I'm guess because it uses data it would be like messaging on a computer.
 
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