Mobile OSs Blackerry Z10 outselling iPhone 5 in UK's largest retailer

[Michael Goff]

Takeaway Points:

Mobile Operator Stores that sell only on contract were pretty much running sales at 1 Z10 to 4/5 iPhone5.
When sold properly by a mobile operator store the Z10 outsold theiPhone, but not the S3.
In retailers, it can vary from the Z10 outselling the iPhone5 4 to 1, simply outselling the iPhone5, to trailing the iPhone5 2 to 1 and 3 to 8 in one location with shortages.
Volumes on a daily basis at one retailer was surprising, claiming top store(s) in the area sell between 60-100 per day, bodes very well for sell-through rates.
There is no shortage of supply nor buyers, especially when sold off contract. Retailers recognized this and hiked up off contract prices.
There is no indication of a ‘slump’ in sales. US Analysts have provided a belly full of laughs to UK mobile store managers.

http://n4bb.com/blackberry-z10-outselling-competition-stores/

 

[MRU]

Tried it for two days.... I'm skeptical....

 

[bili.d.kid]

how can anyone from android/ios switch to a platform that lack of big 3rd party app ecosystem.

 

[TheHateMachine]

Might be doing well in other parts of the world but I do not think it will make as big a splash in North America. Kudos if it does though! More pressure on existing companies to put out better products!

 

[Hail Caesar]

I guess its good news for BB, I dont think it will last that long though.

 

[Michael Goff]

how can anyone from android/ios switch to a platform that lack of big 3rd party app ecosystem.

Did you know that Android apps (the runtime will soon be updated to Jelly Bean) can run on BBOS?

Some reports, back when this came out with the Playbook, were that some apps actually ran better on the playbook than the current Android tablets at the time.

 

[bili.d.kid]

Did you know that Android apps (the runtime will soon be updated to Jelly Bean) can run on BBOS?

Some reports, back when this came out with the Playbook, were that some apps actually ran better on the playbook than the current Android tablets at the time.

no i dont know that. so what you say its going to be bigger in the future?do they knew this before decide to buy bb z10? and leave their iphone or android phone? wow, i definitely far behind the bb os news here.

 

[Michael Goff]

no i dont know that. so what you say its going to be bigger in the future?do they knew this before decide to buy bb z10? and leave their iphone or android phone? wow, i definitely far behind the bb os news here.

Yep, BB10 should be able to be a lot bigger in the future.

I don't know if people knew this before switching, I'm hardly in a position to tell you what the Brits and Canadians were thinking when they bought them.

 

[MRU]

Did you know that Android apps (the runtime will soon be updated to Jelly Bean) can run on BBOS?

Some reports, back when this came out with the Playbook, were that some apps actually ran better on the playbook than the current Android tablets at the time.

You didn't have a playbook obviously....

The android player is clunky at best and does cause an extra overhead reducing performance.

And it's the same on the Z10.

I side loaded a number of apps and very few worked well. At best they worked, at worst they were utterly broken....

At moment on Z10 only android 2.3 is supported. Yes they said they will update in the future to support Android 4.0 but if the performance of 2.3 player is anything to go by, it will mean a lot of apps will remain broken or very sluggish.

As for coming soon... Unless they give an exact date don't pin your hopes on any company promising coming soon. Coming soon could be in 6-12 months time, or longer..... Remember how long it took for them to get BB10 out and how little support Playbook has had. Heck it took over 6 months before they gave the playbook a mail client....

Faith in Blackberry is fine and well, but could be misplaced.

Yes BB10 is great OS and refreshing, but they need native apps and not poorly ported Android apps. If anything the Android player is not a benefit, its a hindrance. Likewise Blackberry approval system of Applications available in Blackberry App World is abysmal because there are so many literally broken, poorly ported apps on there (not the ones from known developers) that just don't work at all. In fact they caused me to have to do a battery pull reset.

The fact that BB App World doesn't even tell you if the app you are buying is a native app or an android app means your playing Russian roulette.

Yes BB10 has promise, but by the time BB get the things it needs to get right, right... People may have already lost interest.

Two days with device and all my BB10 desires were filled. I don't feel I'm missing out on anything after using it.

 

[MRU]

Looks like my skeptism over what BB say and what actually happens is justified..

http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/4/40...-app?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews

As BlackBerry prepares to roll out the Z10 in the US, there may be a notable app missing: Netflix. Before the launch of BlackBerry 10, the company said that it was "in talks" with both Netflix and Instagram for apps. Instagram, however, has reportedly decided to wait before making a native app, and now talks with Netflix seem to have stalled as well. "We have no current plans for a BlackBerry app," a Netflix spokesperson told AllThingsD.

BlackBerry touted 70,000 "launch apps" for its new operating system, including Skype, Rdio, and a number of mobile games. Some of its most high-profile apps, however, aren't being made by the original developers: Twitter, Facebook, and LinkedIn are all from BlackBerry and third parties. On phones, Netflix isn't as vital as a social network like Instagram, and it could end up on the platform later. Right now, though, it's another reminder of what Android, iOS, or Windows Phone users will be giving up if they switch.

 

[mikeo007]

Did you know that Android apps (the runtime will soon be updated to Jelly Bean) can run on BBOS?

Some reports, back when this came out with the Playbook, were that some apps actually ran better on the playbook than the current Android tablets at the time.

I laugh when "Blackberry people" (for lack of a better term) try to push this claim across to others who may not be knowledgable about the subject.

1. The Android player on Blackberry ONLY runs apps coded entirely in Java. Even one drop of native code, and the app fails to run. This means that the majority of the good apps are not available.

2. Performance is poor. They're running an entire instance of the Dalvik JVM along side BB10. It's cool that they can do this, but it severely hampers resources, resulting in poor performance (as stated by others above).

3. Usability is crap. The apps are made for Android, with android buttons and android layouts. Many are virtually unusable on Blackberry.

4. Sideloading apps is likely illegal. It depends on how you interpret the EULA for Google Play, but I'd venture to guess that they didn't intend on apps being downloaded on an Android device, extracted and repackaged and run on a non-android device.