Carrier Blacklisted iPhone outside of USA

[handofgod]

hello everybody!
i want to buy on ebay blacklisted iphone to use it in Europe (mostly in Russia). I read a lot about that, and as i understand – it will work here without any problems.
But i still don't understand which one would be better to buy: AT&T blacklisted / sprint bad esn / verizon bad esn ? i mean, which one would be easier to unlock, or even to use from the box without any unlock.

as i understand, the best option is unlocked blacklisted iPhone. but there is lack of such auctions on Ebay.

thank you for your answers!

 

[jr866gooner]

There's a reason it's blacklisted....

 

[Givmeabrek]

Not sure anyone will help with a stolen/not paid for phone. Nothing worse than encouraging a thief.

 

[CE3]

If the phone is listed as having a bad imei, eBay and papal certainly aren’t going to give you your money back if you can’t get it activated.

It may be a cheap price, but not if it ends up being money down the drain.

 

[eyoungren]

Here is where the issue with the blacklist breaks down.

There is a shared blacklist between the four US carriers. If one carrier blacklists you then your IMEI is supposed to be shared with that list and be blacklisted on the other three carriers.

In reality, this rarely happens. Blacklisted T-Mobile devices for instance will function normally on AT&T.

Further, there is an international blacklist that is also supposed to be shared. If blacklisted in the USA that IMEI is supposed to go into the global list. And vice versa.

Again, it rarely, if ever happens. Which is why there is still a market for blacklisted USA devices overseas.

The breakdown occurs because of money. It benefits a carrier to have a new sub or to retain a new sub, even if that sub is using a blacklisted phone. Turning that sub away because the phone is blacklisted affects the carrier's ability to profit, even if only with an activation fee.

Since there seems to be no penalties for not sharing or complying with both lists this will continue.

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

Thanks for supporting thieves. You are part of the reason other people steal.

 

[handofgod]

Givmeabrek , T'hain Esh Kelch , thank you so much for your opinion, i absolutely agree with you, but it is very deep topic, obviously not for discussion here.

CE3, you're right, it is risky. that's why i wanna find out which one to buy and how can i unlock it, to make a decision if this purchase worth it.

Here is where the issue with the blacklist breaks down.

There is a shared blacklist between the four US carriers. If one carrier blacklists you then your IMEI is supposed to be shared with that list and be blacklisted on the other three carriers.

In reality, this rarely happens. Blacklisted T-Mobile devices for instance will function normally on AT&T.

Further, there is an international blacklist that is also supposed to be shared. If blacklisted in the USA that IMEI is supposed to go into the global list. And vice versa.

Again, it rarely, if ever happens. Which is why there is still a market for blacklisted USA devices overseas.

The breakdown occurs because of money. It benefits a carrier to have a new sub or to retain a new sub, even if that sub is using a blacklisted phone. Turning that sub away because the phone is blacklisted affects the carrier's ability to profit, even if only with an activation fee.

Since there seems to be no penalties for not sharing or complying with both lists this will continue.

thank you for your detailed answer on the topic! do you think, it will be possible to unlock blacklisted phone outside USA ?

 

[maflynn]

[MOD NOTE]
Given the topic matter, I'm closing this thread down.