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Bladerunner (1982 Final Cut)- If we don’t destroy ourselves first, when human beings have the tech to create artificial human beings will they? I think so along with ways to try to transition human to AI. It would be too tempting not to play god. 🤔

The original my opinion:
It’s good, but it’s dark environmentally, so dark, the first time I saw it in a California drive in, I really did not like it. The story is about a guy hunting down 4 rogue Replicants., but it’s more than that, it’s about humanity, what is it to be human? I really like the The Final Cut and Roy Blatty’s soliloquy touches most viewers revealing just how human Replicants are.

Bladerunner: Meaning of the Unicorn dream- Undetermined. It was used at one point to suggest Deckard himself was a replicant, ie a planted memory, and maybe at one time it was planned so, or as a teaser, or as symbolic of Rachel. Bladerunner 2049 disproves Deckard is a replicant. and that Gaff who made the origami figures knew that Racheal was with Deckard. Be basically insinuates it on the rooftop, acknowleging a relationship. It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does?


How Bladerunner got it’s name:

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Bladerunner 2049
I will admit, this is not the story I expected, but it is the perfect link story, but more is needed. Hence my desire for Bladerunner 3. Here is another example before watching Station Eleven of a brilliant story that I suspect lacks enough action although there is both profound action and story, with a bunch of iconic characters.

Sapper Morton the bug farmer who saw a miracle and just wants to be left alone, the uncaring murder of a newly born Replicant by it’s human megalomaniac owner, while another Replicant Luv (ironic name) murders anyone who represent an obstacle to her master, the former Bladerunner hiding out in Vegas, and most poignant is K the good little Replicant Bladerunner who wants to have been born and finally makes a stand, in a near future world where a corporation acts with impunity, and the police are owned. In this setting there is the secret search for a Replicant who may have been born, not made, and the desire of the police chief not to see “the world broken” by such an event. The cinematography and story are fantastic.

Give me Bladerunner 3! :)
Will Bladerunner 3 ever happen? The subject of speculation.




On the horizon
A new Amazon series is being planned:

Fingers crossed they don’t ruin it ….. Imo, typically TV shows based on movie franchises are diminished.
 
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I watched Bladerunner 2049 this morning and this is science fiction magnificence because instead of just dealing with conflict like many of the Marvel movies do, getting revenge, doing a job that goes wrong, excitement, adventure, fighting, or taking over the universe, BR 2049 is the kind of story that has been intriguing SciFi writers from the start, an examination of who we really are, what makes us human, and by what yardstick to we grant our selves special status/privilege in the Universe.

These themes existed in the original but this story really hits home with the emergent desire of a new and improved, post blackout replicant to be a person or at least to have the same rights as everyone else, who basically has spent his llife dealing with prejudice and being despised by most human beings,
  • Sapper Morton: You newer models are happy scraping the ****...because you've never seen a miracle.
Why the interest in a this particular replicant named Rachel?… procreation, both the threat and solution depending on your perspective. The police see this as a threat, tearing down the wall between humans and replicants. Replicants might think they deserve some rights if they can be born just like us. While the megalomaniac Wallace sees the issue in terms of production limits, he can only build so many.

Of interest Neander Wallace is an rich industrialist who has saved the world and apparently incredibly powerful. He seems to be at odds with the LAPD, but he can send his assassin into the Dept at will to murder anyone who gets in his way without repercussions. And that psychopath assistant for the cause named Luv, a real goal oriented you’re expendable monster, who has a serious ego problem, I’m better than you! she quips when she thinks she has won a fight.
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  • Lt JoshI: The world is built on a wall that separates kind. Tell either side there is no wall, you bought a war or a slaughter. So what you saw didn’t happen.
  • K: Yes mam. You want it gone?
  • Lt Joshi: Erase everything.
  • K: Even the child?
  • Lt JoshI: All trace. Do you have anything more to say?
  • K: I’ve never retired something that was born before.
  • Lt JoshI: What’s the difference?
  • K: To be born is to have a soul I guess.
  • Lt JoshI: Are you telling me no?
  • K: I didn’t know no was an option.
  • Lt JoshI: Atta boy. <pause> Hey, you’ve been getting along fine without one.
  • K: What’s that ma’am?
  • Lt JoshI: A soul.
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  • Neander Wallace: We make angels in the service of civilization. I make good angels now. That is how I took us to nine new worlds. Nine, a child can count to nine on fingers. We should own the stars. Every leap in civilization was built on the backs of a disposable workforce. We lost our taste for slaves, unless engineered. But I can only make so many.
 
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I liked the 1982 version of Bladerunner quite a lot, specially the one that ends with the lead actor and actress driving away from the city. I just don't know which "cut" that one was.
 
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I liked the 1982 version of Bladerunner quite a lot, specially the one that ends with the lead actor and actress driving away from the city. I just don't know which "cut" that one was.
The one before the Final Cut? …maybe Director’s cut. ? At the end of The Final Cut, Deckard asks Rachael if she trusts him, she says yes, and they leave together, but no car scene.
 

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Blade Runner Black Lotus (2021-22)- 64% audience review at Rotten Tomatoes. Animated series reported as underwhelming, yet high reviews at Amazon. Music incompatible with what came before (in the trailer) if this is important to you. Anyone see and agree with the former or the latter? :)



4.4 out of 5 at Amazon
Faces that look more like masks, misshapen hands, and they look hilarious when they run. They should have pitched this to an animation house running either Unreal or old school anime. The music is a horrendous mismatch for the Blade Runner universe.
 

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Series Feb2024 Update:

'Blade Runner 2099': Filming Details, Plot, Crew, and Everything We Know so Far About the Prime Video Series


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The good news is that Ridley Scott is producing this so, if there is a plan for another movie, he I assume would have a rough, but big picture sketched out, as far as major events, at least I hope so. But remember this is the guy who stunned us with Alien and then later after Director Cameron, thrilled us with Aliens, he butchered that franchise. ;)

The question is where will this series 50 years after BR2049 fit in with a possible movie or is this it? Unknown… No character or casting info.

And will there be a replicant revolution and even if there is one, there is no assurance what will happen, could be a fissiled revolution, or it may have already happened in the last 50 years, but honestly I’d be disappointed if it is glossed over.

Of note, BR2049 got stellar reviews but lost significant money at the box office. So maybe we are lucky to get this. It is more than worthy, in some ways better than the original imo. Most of the original film was a straight forward replicant hunt, but with a stellar, unexpected, sad and happy, hanging ending. 😉
 
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