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When are they going to release a Bluetooth Ipod? This is what they need to keep on top. I also would obviously like some Bluetooth headphones that come with and work flawlessly of course. When can we expect apple to take the next step and when will the next generation IPOD(that hopefully will have bluetooth) be coming out?
 
Well its a pretty safe bet that the 5th generation iPods will have bluetooth, now that the iMac and PowerBook (and I THINK the PowerMac) all have BT 2.0 built in.

A Mac mini, iBook update will make these computers have it also (Apple drastically reduced the price of BT on a BTO Mac mini)

The eMac doesnt have BT but when Gen5 comes out of the iPods the eMac may be history...
 
I think it's possible but not a sure bet:

* Its audience would be limited--not everyone has BT, and very few have BT 2 yet. Speed is a factor.

* It would use power and add bulk (antenna).

* It would not charge your iPod... so you'd still need to connect a cord anyway.

So while I'm sure Apple has tossed this idea around, and it would be cool, I wouldn't be surprised if this kind of thing is long way off.
 
BT would only work if:

It had a 20+ HR Battery life so anyone could just wirelessly sync quickly...
 
i dont see BT anytime soon, although apple are allowed to prove me wrong

problem with bt is transfer speeds and battery life.

HOWEVER, the one possiblity i see for BT being added to the iPods would be if the Airport Express stations recieved it as well so you could wirlessly stream through them.....then it would make a bit more sense
 
nagromme said:
I think it's possible but not a sure bet:

* Its audience would be limited--not everyone has BT, and very few have BT 2 yet. Speed is a factor.

* It would use power and add bulk (antenna).

* It would not charge your iPod... so you'd still need to connect a cord anyway.

So while I'm sure Apple has tossed this idea around, and it would be cool, I wouldn't be surprised if this kind of thing is long way off.

I agree, a BT iPod seems kind of pointless to me. The transfer speeds would be ridiculously slow and its uses would be very limited. Maybe it could be used for syncing contacts and notes, but that's not the selling point.
 
PlaceofDis said:
i dont see BT anytime soon, although apple are allowed to prove me wrong

problem with bt is transfer speeds and battery life.

HOWEVER, the one possiblity i see for BT being added to the iPods would be if the Airport Express stations recieved it as well so you could wirlessly stream through them.....then it would make a bit more sense

I don't see BT as a syncing option myself, but the ability to use BT headphones would be nice.
 
Chip NoVaMac said:
I don't see BT as a syncing option myself, but the ability to use BT headphones would be nice.
I also have to agree. I don't remember the exact numbers but I thought BT 2.0 had a transfer rate of 300 KB a second and that may be on the high side. It's obvious no one would use that for syncing their iPod but BT Headphones would be a good option to go and a BT enabled APE that would be able to receive songs via the iPod could be useful. The iPod could then act as a remote to an APE which many people want.
 
dotdotdot said:
Well its a pretty safe bet that the 5th generation iPods will have bluetooth, now that the iMac and PowerBook (and I THINK the PowerMac) all have BT 2.0 built in.

A Mac mini, iBook update will make these computers have it also (Apple drastically reduced the price of BT on a BTO Mac mini)

The eMac doesnt have BT but when Gen5 comes out of the iPods the eMac may be history...
Well I know the Power Macs don't have BT 2.0 built in. I'm not even sure if BT 2.0 is a BTO option which would be surprising. I've looked on the Power Mac specs sheet and there is no mention of BT 2.0.
 
Josh396 said:
I also have to agree. I don't remember the exact numbers but I thought BT 2.0 had a transfer rate of 300 KB a second and that may be on the high side. It's obvious no one would use that for syncing their iPod but BT Headphones would be a good option to go and a BT enabled APE that would be able to receive songs via the iPod could be useful. The iPod could then act as a remote to an APE which many people want.

Oh, great! I have three APE's to cover my new 800 sft. apartment, and now you are suggesting that I buy a new APE with BT. :D Seriously, this is not a bad idea though. Apple, like any other company depends on updaters to keep the profits flowing.
 
Josh396 said:
Well I know the Power Macs don't have BT 2.0 built in. I'm not even sure if BT 2.0 is a BTO option which would be surprising. I've looked on the Power Mac specs sheet and there is no mention of BT 2.0.

Good point. They just mention BT as a BTO option.

Does anyone know if there are any BT 2.0 dongles available if Apple dropped the ball on this one? For some of us are looking at the high-end specs of Tiger and are giving serious weight to doing a DP PM G5.
 
Induction, mobile calls and Airport for iPod

A few weeks ago Creative showed a system that uses induction for wireless audio; I think that would be much better than BT because it uses less power.

That is not to say that BT would not be usefull. A BT enabled mobile phone could notify you that someone is calling through your iPod's headphones.

The iPod should have Airport built in it. Imagine being able to use the device as a browser and remote for the Airport Express. Better yet, imagine using the iPod to preview and purchase tracks from the iTunes Music Store any time you are near a wireless access point
 
Sol said:
The iPod should have Airport built in it. Imagine being able to use the device as a browser and remote for the Airport Express. Better yet, imagine using the iPod to preview and purchase tracks from the iTunes Music Store any time you are near a wireless access point
While that would seem like a good idea to some people I just don't see it happening. I imagine it would use a lot more battery life and increased size as well as making the iPod appear to some as a PDA instead just an MP3 player, something I don't think Apple or Jobs wants.
 
Sol said:
A few weeks ago Creative showed a system that uses induction for wireless audio; I think that would be much better than BT because it uses less power.

That is not to say that BT would not be usefull. A BT enabled mobile phone could notify you that someone is calling through your iPod's headphones.

The iPod should have Airport built in it. Imagine being able to use the device as a browser and remote for the Airport Express. Better yet, imagine using the iPod to preview and purchase tracks from the iTunes Music Store any time you are near a wireless access point

Imagine a Treo 700 that just added iPod mini functionality to a cell phone. I have no interest in buying tunes via my cellphone. I would be willing to have a larger phone that could double as my music machine when on the road.

In some ways you describe the T-Mobile Sidekick II, except that it does not have iPod functionality. There is all this talk about buying tunes through the phone. I would rather see the ability to bookmark tunes that i could download on my home system and then upload to my cellphone system.
 
Wait for new technology

Josh396 said:
I imagine it would use a lot more battery life and increased size as well as making the iPod appear to some as a PDA instead just an MP3 player, something I don't think Apple or Jobs wants.

By the time Apple is ready to make another major change to the iPod there will be new batteries and wi-fi chips available that have none of today's issues.

As for not making the iPod into a PDA, why do Apple include a calendar, clock, contact book, notes and image browser with the current generation?
 
Chip NoVaMac said:
I would rather see the ability to bookmark tunes that i could download on my home system and then upload to my cellphone system.
Good point. I think something like that would be a good idea but I don't think it's need to keep the iPod on top of the market. Then again I don't work for Apple so what do I know. :p
 
Sol said:
By the time Apple is ready to make another major change to the iPod there will be new batteries and wi-fi chips available that have none of today's issues.

As for not making the iPod into a PDA, why do Apple include a calendar, clock, contact book, notes and image browser with the current generation?
These are just small things that keep the iPod above the others without crossing over into the PDA market. I know the new batteries will be available but how soon? I would imagine the 5G iPod to be out this summer. I think that eventually the iPod will include a wi-fi chips of some sort but I don't think this soon.
 
Josh396 said:
Good point. I think something like that would be a good idea but I don't think it's need to keep the iPod on top of the market. Then again I don't work for Apple so what do I know. :p

I was speaking from the point about ITunes enabled cellphones. I don;t care about downloading tunes right then and there on my cellphone. If you have a tune that you shared with me one way or another, I would rather have the ability to bookmark it for future purchase. i don 't need to pay the price for instant gratification.

I would rather have a single device that might be able to serve me as my iPod mini and my cellphone have.
 
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