Bluray or HD-DVD drive too thick for MBP?

[Emrtr4]

I am someone who loves HD content (please Itunes, feed me my HD!!!)

I know how thin the MBPs are and that they cannot have duel layer 8x burners (like my moms new blackbook) because they use thin drives. So because of this, if the current design sticks does it mean that we will not be seeing any HD-DVD or Blu-ray drives anytime soon on MBPs? Also, I realize that Apple supports Blu-ray, but given that I have an HD-DVD player and 10 or so HD-DVDs I would like to see some love, ha.

Perhaps devices such as Apple TV will make HD-DVD and blu-ray un-necessary, if Itunes in the future supports HD and there are already other digital HD sources HD-DVD and blu-ray may not play as big of a part as we think. Already 70% or more of all the HD material I watch is digital.

 

[Soundburst]

Would downloading a HD movie not take up about 4 gb's of downloading?

 

[kolax]

Never knew you could get analogue HD broadcasts..?

You'll be able to buy USB HD-DVD/Blu-Ray drives for Mac at some point - not the best solution but nevertheless will let you play HD discs.

However, I'd rather Apple went with HD-DVD rather than Blu-Ray, since HD-DVD discs use multiple layers; scratching part of the disc won't cause you to loose loads of data, where as scratching part of a Blu-Ray disc will cause all sorts of problems.

I rarely put a DVD into my DVD player on my MBP anyway - films I watch come from other places (not that I'm chuffed about it), but downloading HD movies will cause a major problem if you want lossless video and audio. Fair enough the MBP can play H.264 without any noticable problems, but I don't think my ISP would enjoy me burning my bandwidth on 30Gb films.

Anyway, I seem to have gone off on a tangent to the post topic - I don't see any reason why they won't be able to produce slim-line HD players in the future that would match up with the MBP perfectly.

 

[Cult Follower]

apple will not make their computers thicker they will wait until BD-ROMs get smaller, but they should be able to fit into the MacPro. Igues we will just have to wait and see.

 

[dornoforpyros]

apple will not make their computers thicker they will wait until BD-ROMs get smaller, but they should be able to fit into the MacPro. Igues we will just have to wait and see.

Yup, I think uncle Steve is pretty stuck on the 1" form factor and won't let it get any thicker.

 

[Samwise592]

However, I'd rather Apple went with HD-DVD rather than Blu-Ray, since HD-DVD discs use multiple layers; scratching part of the disc won't cause you to loose loads of data, where as scratching part of a Blu-Ray disc will cause all sorts of problems.

yeah, but you're forgetting the theoretical size limits.

HD-DVD - 64gb
Blu-Ray - 200gb

plus, since the coating on blu-ray discs is much smaller (.1 vs .6) it's coated with an anti-scratch, fingerprint-resistant layer.

i'm gonna go with blu-ray

 

[kolax]

A typical Blu-Jay disc holds 25GB's - can be up to 50GB's on a dual layer disc. Dunno where you got your 200Gb's from.

HD-DVD can hold up to 15GB's.

 

[lordmac]

A typical Blu-Jay disc holds 25GB's - can be up to 50GB's on a dual layer disc. Dunno where you got your 200Gb's from.

HD-DVD can hold up to 15GB's.

No, I believe there is some mixing up of facts.

right now the hd -dvds can be easily made and read at 15gb -single layer and 30 gb double layer.
As well what toshiba claims will be eventually available triple layer hd-dvd with 51 gb of space.

The blu-ray discs a easily obtained in 25 gb - single layer and 50 gb - double layer discs. But in the labs they have been able to cram as many as 8 layers onto blu-ray disc, creating a disc capable of holding 200 gb. This gives blu-ray the potential to to hold a much greater amount of data then hd-dvd. (whether or not this is important is a whole other debate i wont get into)

Also because as you have said the blu-ray discs did have a potential to scratch more easily because of their design, they coat all blu-ray discs in this anti scratch stuff that is support to survive having steel wool rubbed against it (I have no person proof of this though, just what the reports say).

Personally i am more on the side of blu-ray simply because i always tend to prefer what is from a technical standpoint better, rather then what is better from a cost point of view. In the end it makes little difference as long as there is someway to get all that yummy HD content.

 

[kolax]

Ohh right so we're going by claims rather than whats actually available on the market at the moment are we? You should've said.

 

[lordmac]

Ohh right so we're going by claims rather than whats actually available on the market at the moment are we? You should've said.

Well keep in mind that this technology is still so new that what each is potentially capable of is still important to think about when evaluating it. I mean the reality is that there are still so few HD disc players out there at this point that what is to come is just as important as what is already here. But i dunno this debate can quickly lead down some not so nice roads as you can easily go and observe in some of the dedicated blu-ray vs hd dvd threads.

ps. sorry the grammar in my first post was so crappy ( i shall try and fix it at some point).