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Books query

blackxacto

blackxacto

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Have not installed iOS 12 yet, but wanted to ask if anyone knows if iOS12 Books has overcome a serious flaw from iBooks.

Lets say I open a pdf stored in Books (iOS12) into an editing app, like PDFXpert. I add a 96pt word to the front of the pdf, then close the pdf back to Books.

Does the cover edit SHOW in Books(iOS12)? I am not talking about editing the interior, just the cover.

*(iOS11.4 iBooks, no edits show on covers when checked back into iBooks. I must save as to desktop. Delete the pdf in iBooks, then import the duplicate for an edit to show.)
 
blackxacto said:
Have not installed iOS 12 yet, but wanted to ask if anyone knows if iOS12 Books has overcome a serious flaw from iBooks.

Lets say I open a pdf stored in Books (iOS12) into an editing app, like PDFXpert. I add a 96pt word to the front of the pdf, then close the pdf back to Books.

Does the cover edit SHOW in Books(iOS12)? I am not talking about editing the interior, just the cover.

*(iOS11.4 iBooks, no edits show on covers when checked back into iBooks. I must save as to desktop. Delete the pdf in iBooks, then import the duplicate for an edit to show.)
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I just tested. Looks like PDF Expert only exposes a "Copy to PDF Expert" option in the share sheet. I therefore would not expect any changes in PDF Export to be reflected in Books. That's because the target application, in this case PDF Expert, did not implement the kind of share sheet where edited data is reflected in the source application.
 
Would you explain “share sheet” needed? Do other apps “share” w iBooks? How do I know if an app shares with another? I appreciate you testing this incident.
 
blackxacto said:
Would you explain “share sheet” needed? Do other apps “share” w iBooks? How do I know if an app shares with another? I appreciate you testing this incident.
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So a few years ago (iOS 8 or 9 I think) Apple introduced a new type of share sheet extension. Up until then anything that shared a file made a copy from the source's sandbox to the target and at that point you had two disconnected files. Exactly what you're describing, you make a change and have to move it back to the source manually. These types of share extensions say "Copy to..."

Apple added a way for Apps to elect to open documents in place, just like you want. You can share, edit and close and you'll find the content updated in the original place/ This has to be added by the app dev by the app that is receiving. These types of extension say "Open in...".

Long story short, it's an issue with PDF Expert here. They can, and have been able to for years, elect to implement this functionality.
 
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Do I have to buy the app to test whether it will share with Apple apps? Or is there a way to tell before I buy?
 
blackxacto said:
Do I have to buy the app to test whether it will share with Apple apps? Or is there a way to tell before I buy?
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I've only ever seen the ability to do this mentioned in a few apps release notes. You generally wouldn't know until you tried the app.

It's pretty frustrating that devs haven't universally adopted these APIs after 3 or 4 years of availability.
 
Thank you so much for enlightening me on this situation. I have called Apple Support, supplied screen videos to Apple Support, filed multiple reports on iBooks at Product Feedback for months. And no one told me what you just did. You are my hero.

Thanks again, Feenician.
 
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Thank you so much for enlightening me on this situation. I have called Apple Support, supplied screen videos to Apple Support, filed multiple reports on iBooks at Product Feedback for months. And no one told me what you just did. You are my hero.

Thanks again, Feenician.
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You're very welcome. What might be worth doing is sending an email to Readdle support, describing your use case to them and see if they have or will put it on the roadmap.
 
i did a bunch of PDF of comic books i drew back in 1998 last April on the iPad. I saved 5 them through the icloud and iPad (2017 gen5). Today they are gone after deleting everything on the cloud 2 months ago, even the dupes on the iPad.
so think mr apple needs to configure iBooks or books for personal use even though they cannot profit from me making my own book.
hopefully the 2018 iBooks or books can remedy this.
 
If you use iCloud docs, does iCloud watch the entire iPad, or a specific folder? I understand if you deleted everything in iCloud, but whether or not the entire iPad? I hope it’s a folder on the iPad.
 
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If you use iCloud docs, does iCloud watch the entire iPad, or a specific folder? I understand if you deleted everything in iCloud, but whether or not the entire iPad? I hope it’s a folder on the iPad.
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that is what is baffling me, but i won't loose sleep over losing these PDF files in the iPad.
then again what the sense of having that book-app on the iPad, besides BUYing them?
 
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