Boot Camp 3.1 for Windows 7 is here

[Og Oggilby]

Why don't you just install boot camp 3.0 then the 3.2 update?

3.2 update - do you mean the 3.1 update, or is there a new 3.2 update available already?

Anyway, I have read about problems with boot camp in this and other threads. Since everything appears to be working (except the Mac keys), I didn't see why I should mess with installing boot camp.

 

[BeSweeet]

3.2 update - do you mean the 3.1 update, or is there a new 3.2 update available already?

Anyway, I have read about problems with boot camp in this and other threads. Since everything appears to be working (except the Mac keys), I didn't see why I should mess with installing boot camp.

Just because everything is already working doesn't mean you can't improve on things.

Boot camp has the latest drivers for everything which is always a good thing.

 

[Og Oggilby]

Just because everything is already working doesn't mean you can't improve on things.

Boot camp has the latest drivers for everything which is always a good thing.

...if I could install boot camp. I tried running the Boot Camp 3.0 install from my Snow Leopard 10.6 DVD and I get this installation error: Boot Camp x64 is unsupported on this computer model.

 

[TheSpaz]

...if I could install boot camp. I tried running the Boot Camp 3.0 install from my Snow Leopard 10.6 DVD and I get this installation error: Boot Camp x64 is unsupported on this computer model.

You can't install it that way. Lemme share a secret with you. Follow these instructions below:

In the Windows 7 Start Menu Type “cmd”, then right-click on the program that appears and choose “Run As Administrator”.

Then enter;

D:
cd "Boot Camp\Drivers\Apple"
msiexec /i BootCamp64.msi

 

[Og Oggilby]

You can't install it that way. Lemme share a secret with you. Follow these instructions below:

Thanks for your help! That worked great and I was able to use Apple Software Update to update to Boot Camp 3.1. The eject and volume keys work now .

 

[dragonbong]

Thanks for your help! That worked great and I was able to use Apple Software Update to update to Boot Camp 3.1. The eject and volume keys work now .

This is exciting news for me. Didn't run through the entire thread but did you have any audio issues (too low? wont' recognize speakers in audio jack?)??

 

[rtjstevens]

ATI drivers/bootcamp/win7 issues?

Hi, all; have read all threads but still a little confused!

I have a 10 day-old i5 iMac. I have a 32gB partition with Win 7Hp on it.
Black screen issue solved, but ATI drivers seem very unstable: the screen often locks (with a rapid movement of the mouse); I get many pinkish pixels (about 1-2mm square) over the open windows (not the whole screen), and then an error message saying something like "Radeon family drivers have been restored" - but the issue still keeps on happening.
I have-I believe- updated to Bootcamp3.1. ( I downloaded it in MacOS and used a usb stick to load it on to Win7; used winrar to extract and run). For such a big program it didn't seem to take long to run). Software update seems to show that it was uploaded OK as it no longer appears on the list of programs to update....

... BUT.. I think I should find a bootcamp icon in the Win7 'system tray'. I've looked but cannot see anything (I'm looking bottom left and right of the screen).
1) Is this normal?
2). How else can I tell if Bootcamp 3.1 has really loaded OK?
3) In simple terms please explain how I can get better drivers for the HD4850 mobility card (I think someone mentioned Nvidea 188.61, OR 'Mobility beta', (any links would be very welcome)).
4) No isight drivers included; again, is this normal? Where can I get them from?

Many thanks,

BW

Richard

 

[rtjstevens]

Addendum

Hi, all; have read all threads but still a little confused!

I have a 10 day-old i5 iMac. I have a 32gB partition with Win 7Hp on it.
Black screen issue solved, but ATI drivers seem very unstable: the screen often locks (with a rapid movement of the mouse); I get many pinkish pixels (about 1-2mm square) over the open windows (not the whole screen), and then an error message saying something like "Radeon family drivers have been restored" - but the issue still keeps on happening.
I have-I believe- updated to Bootcamp3.1. ( I downloaded it in MacOS and used a usb stick to load it on to Win7; used winrar to extract and run). For such a big program it didn't seem to take long to run). Software update seems to show that it was uploaded OK as it no longer appears on the list of programs to update....

... BUT.. I think I should find a bootcamp icon in the Win7 'system tray'. I've looked but cannot see anything (I'm looking bottom left and right of the screen).
1) Is this normal?
2). How else can I tell if Bootcamp 3.1 has really loaded OK?
3) In simple terms please explain how I can get better drivers for the HD4850 mobility card (I think someone mentioned Nvidea 188.61, OR 'Mobility beta', (any links would be very welcome)).
4) No isight drivers included; again, is this normal? Where can I get them from?

Many thanks,

BW

Richard

Sorry, should have mentioned that it's the 64bit version of Win7 I'm running. Is there any advantage in starting all over again with Win 32bit?

Thanks

RTJ

 

[TheSpaz]

Sorry, should have mentioned that it's the 64bit version of Win7 I'm running. Is there any advantage in starting all over again with Win 32bit?

Thanks

RTJ

You have to have Boot Camp 3.0 installed before running the Boot Camp 3.1 installer.

 

[rtjstevens]

You have to have Boot Camp 3.0 installed before running the Boot Camp 3.1 installer.

Hi, thanks; I assumed I must have had v3.0 installed otherwise I couldn't have had Win7 installed. Is that correct?

BW

Rich

 

[flopticalcube]

Hi, thanks; I assumed I must have had v3.0 installed otherwise I couldn't have had Win7 installed. Is that correct?

BW

Rich

Run Apple Software Update on the Windows side. You may not have everything installed. To make sure, put in your install disk 1 under windows and run Setup. If it won't run or you get an error message, go down into drivers\Apple. Right click on bootcamp64.msi and check "run as admin" with compatibility of "Previous Operating System" or "Vista Sp1" if its there. Then double click bootcamp64.msi, after the install and reboot, rerun Apple Software Update.

 

[TheSpaz]

Hi, thanks; I assumed I must have had v3.0 installed otherwise I couldn't have had Win7 installed. Is that correct?

BW

Rich

No, that's not correct. You have a misunderstanding of what Boot Camp is. You can install Windows on an Intel Mac without any Apple files. When you boot into Windows for the first time, you're running 100% generic Windows install. In order to install Boot Camp 3.0, you have to insert your Mac OS X Snow Leopard install DVD into the drive and run the Boot Camp installer (3.0). This will install the necessary files that Windows needs to deal with some of the Mac hardware (including video).

After Boot Camp 3.0 is installed, then open Software Update and update to 3.1.

I'm assuming the reason why you had to download the update separately and put it on a flash drive to get it to install is because 1.) You didn't have a Software Update app in Windows already and 2.) You couldn't see or access your Mac OS X Hard Drive from within Windows (another Boot Camp feature).

So the short answer is no, you probably didn't have Boot Camp installed in the first place (unless you did everything I explained already).

 

[rtjstevens]

Thanks to both of you for your help.

I've reloaded Bootcamp 3.0 from the install disc. I had run it before - I can recall the splash screens etc. I'm just downloading the 3.1 update. At present I still have the driver issue with the same strange pixellation and freezing I mentioned in the original post. Let's hope v3.1 will fix that.

The reason that I had bootcamp originally on the usb stick was that I mistakingly thought that it was an Apple app on the Apple side, not on the Windows side. After I realised my mistake it was easier to use the usb stick than having to download the whole package again. I hope that makes sense!

My wireless mouse doesn't work until well over 3-4 minutes after windows appears to have booted-up completely.

On another question: I now think that the 32gb partition is too small for all I want to do. Is it possible to enlarge the windows partition (say to 150gb), without having to reload Bootcamp/Win7, or indeed, MacOS?

Many thanks,

Richard

 

[rtjstevens]

Well , Bc3.1 installed, and yes, there is a BC icon in the task bar AND the driver issue seems to have been solved (in that I no longer get lock-ups or crazy pixellation), BUT...
... the ATI catalyst icon in the task bar has gone and I get"Catalyst control centre: Host application has stopped working" error.

The isight driver has now appeared; the apple wireless mouse still takes an age for it to work.

Any ideas/feedback most welcome!

Thanks,

Richard

 

[TheSpaz]

Well , Bc3.1 installed, and yes, there is a BC icon in the task bar AND the driver issue seems to have been solved (in that I no longer get lock-ups or crazy pixellation), BUT...
... the ATI catalyst icon in the task bar has gone and I get"Catalyst control centre: Host application has stopped working" error.

The isight driver has now appeared; the apple wireless mouse still takes an age for it to work.

Any ideas/feedback most welcome!

Thanks,

Richard

Usually I just have to click the magic mouse a few times and then Windows recognizes it. I'm not sure what's with the Catalyst Control Center.

 

[kernkraft]

What a useless bunch!

I have been planning to install a version of Windows on my primary portable (mid-2009 13.3" MacBook Pro). However, my previous experience made me cautious about Bootcamp. I am sorry to ask this in this thread, but somebody might be able to give some useful advice. There are a few things, though...

1. I use Snow Leopard on the machine and I use an external HDD with bootable Leopard. Currently, I have a 7200rpm Seagate HDD in the computer that I am planning to keep for years, even with newer MacBook Pros. The external HDD might go as I only kept Leopard for safety reasons.

2. I have a legit (Macupdate bundle) copy of Parallels 4. From what I have heard, I wouldn't mind Sun's Virtualbox either. Unfortunately, I haven't got Fusion.

3. I have a legit copy of XP Home Edition that I used with Bootcamp in the past (but haven't registered, didn't like Bootcamp). I also have a Windows 7 Release Candidate DVD that I haven't installed nor registered. Has the registration period expired? Will I be able to use the Release Candidate until the summer when it would be shutting off regularly, anyway? I mostly want to use Windows for very occasional GTA games and some of my old favourites (Anno series, etc), for MS Office and to keep my media library organised. For some reason, under iTunes I always end up with multiple copies of the same files - music and photos.




So my question is simple. Which combination would you recommend with Windows? Snow Leopard with a fast and large HDD or Leopard on external HDD? Bootcamp, Virtualbox or Parallels? XP or 7 release candidate? Also, 32 or 64 bits?



Many thanks!

This is ridiculous! Not one single 'geek' could spit anything about a technical problem... For f@@@@ sake, what the hell are people using their computers for? To look at and tell about its freaking user experience?!

 

[flopticalcube]

This is ridiculous! Not one single 'geek' could spit anything about a technical problem... For f@@@@ sake, what the hell are people using their computers for? To look at and tell about its freaking user experience?!

You could have started your own thread instead of hijacking this one and run the risk of your post getting lost (which looks like it did). Unfortunately, your attitude now is not conducive to getting people to help you. Good luck.

 

[panzer06]

Just because everything is already working doesn't mean you can't improve on things.

snip.

hmmm, I don't know about that.

I don't see any reason to install this update on my iMac or my uMBP. They both work with Windows 7 and BC 3.0 so I see no reason to update. I do occasionally test newer nvidia drivers for Windows 7 and if they work on the iMac I install them on the uMBP. Other than GPU drivers I don't see any need to upgrade since everything (including the special keys) works.

Cheers,

 

[Bonstrick]

Windows 7 and Boot camp

I purchased Windows 7 Professional to install on my 27" IMAC so that I can run an Embroidery Program that is not compatible with MAC OS. Yesterday I tried to install it by going to Boot Camp assistant in Utilities Folder. I partitioned off successfully then downloaded WIndows 7. My MAC shut off and had a hard time going back on then said Windows had not closed properly and needed to start in safe mode. I attempted to start in safe mode, Reg., Safe Mode with Commands and one other safe mod option. I get the message that Windows can not start. At that point I inserted my IMAC Applications Install DVD and the screen stayed black.

I have a feeling I am not doing something in the correct order. I have read through these messages and don't see one with the same issues.

Is it easier to install Parallels or VM Fusion? Should I give up on Boot Camp?
Bonnie

 

[panofish]

hmmm, I don't know about that.

I don't see any reason to install this update on my iMac or my uMBP. They both work with Windows 7 and BC 3.0 so I see no reason to update. I do occasionally test newer nvidia drivers for Windows 7 and if they work on the iMac I install them on the uMBP. Other than GPU drivers I don't see any need to upgrade since everything (including the special keys) works.

Cheers,

You are wise.

I should have followed my own similar philosophy "if it ain't broke.. don't fix it".
But, unfortunately I didn't and now my video was messed up and my mouse speed is too slow.

Can I just revert back to bootcamp 3.0 by installing it on top of 3.1?

 

[barkmarkn]

can we use 3.1 by itself or do we need 3.0

 

[TheSpaz]

can we use 3.1 by itself or do we need 3.0

You need 3.0 first before upgrading to 3.1. It's not a standalone installer.

 

[valvehead]

Other than GPU drivers I don't see any need to upgrade since everything (including the special keys) works.

I do see a need (for me anyway). The main reason I upgraded to 3.1 is that the new bootcamp.exe process no longer has DPC latency problems. Yay! This means I can leave the process running while using my audio/video programs. Before, I had to either quit the process or force it to low-priority and single-core affinity. Without the process running, volume and brightness control keys and the Apple IR remote don't work. It was quite a hassle, and it took Apple way too long to fix that problem.

The 3.1 upgrade went without a hitch. After it finished I immediately reinstalled the nvidia 195.62 driver and reset the digital vibrance back to 50%. The trackpad driver still sucks, but it's still better than Boot Camp 2.x ever was. Interestingly the Realtek driver included in 3.1 is newer than what is on Realtek's site. Odd.

 

[nikimac21]

win 7 64 bootcamp 3.1 still no sound

Hi,
my imac is 21,5 , 1Tb, ATI. I did a 230Mb partition to install win 7 64b. I have installed the Win 7 home premium 64 bit but no sound, no isight, no scroll with magic mouse. I used the apple upgrade to install the newer bootcamp 3.1 and I did it. I still have no sound . Any help

 

[panzer06]

I do see a need (for me anyway). The main reason I upgraded to 3.1 is that the new bootcamp.exe process no longer has DPC latency problems. Yay! This means I can leave the process running while using my audio/video programs. Before, I had to either quit the process or force it to low-priority and single-core affinity. Without the process running, volume and brightness control keys and the Apple IR remote don't work. It was quite a hassle, and it took Apple way too long to fix that problem.

The 3.1 upgrade went without a hitch. After it finished I immediately reinstalled the nvidia 195.62 driver and reset the digital vibrance back to 50%. The trackpad driver still sucks, but it's still better than Boot Camp 2.x ever was. Interestingly the Realtek driver included in 3.1 is newer than what is on Realtek's site. Odd.

I use Windows 7 on this Mac for gaming only and have never had any issue with bootcamp.exe

Perhaps games do not trigger the problem you are seeing.

Sitting peacefully at 3.0

Cheers,