Bootcamp theory

[Jasonbot]

I ahve a theory/some crit. for Bootcamp under Leopard...

Firstly, restarting your sysyem every time ever kinda sucks for anyone and it often deters me from playing games because of that. So, why not have both OSes boot at the same time, windows can boot in the background... Then, when you want to use bootcamp, all you do is log out. HAve OSX go into a no-resources state and have windows wake up from a previous"no-resources" state.

Basically both OSes are up at the same time but either one or the other is in "hibernate..." mode, it would provide faster switch times and allow people to interchange OSes quickly with full graphics and hardware support.

Hows it sound? Ideas?

 

[Teh Don Ditty]

i find that theory rather interesting. Is it actually feasible?

 

[Jasonbot]

I have no idea about the resources that could be used by windows/OS X in "no-resources" mode. We would also need to get maximum boot times and max performance while in either OS.

 

[OwlsAndApples]

This does sound a good idea...is it possible that one day there could be a complete return to solid state memory (no need for a HD) and RAM will never need to be talked of again?

 

[Teh Don Ditty]

that is the problem at hand. how to get both OSs to boot in the shortest (or shall i say a minimal amount of time) and have one not use any (or low) resources. Anybody out there want to take a stab at that?

 

[xUKHCx]

This does sound a good idea...is it possible that one day there could be a complete return to solid state memory (no need for a HD) and RAM will never need to be talked of again?

Slight diversion, where abouts in Herts are you.

HITs idea has been tossed around quite a bit. Could it be one of the secret features, possibly. Will it be, in my opinion, no.


Rich

 

[Teh Don Ditty]

or better yet, WINE. Except that WINE would have to be a lot more powerful than it is today.

 

[Jasonbot]

@OwlsandApples. There was once a time of complete solid state!? Well Hard disks are soon coming with NAND for portions of the OS. Is it true that NAND would mean no need for RAM!

We need some 1337 programmers to do something...

 

[balamw]

Essentially you end up with Parallels or a "Fast OS Switching" system where the switching is a Hibernate OS 1, bring OS 2 out of hibernation step, which still isn't particularly fast.

Intel's Robson caching might help in this regard.... http://www.intel.com/technology/magazine/computing/robson-1206.htm

B

 

[Jasonbot]

While it might not be fast it could be fasterthan the current solution, also... Will robson be built into HD's so people can just do a simple upgrade or is it a mobo thing?

 

[OwlsAndApples]

@OwlsandApples. There was once a time of complete solid state!? Well Hard disks are soon coming with NAND for portions of the OS. Is it true that NAND would mean no need for RAM!

Ermmm...the '1 laptop per child' or '$100 laptop' is completely solid state, that's all I can think of.

Slight diversion, where abouts in Herts are you.

Rich

BTW, St Albania.

 

[Teh Don Ditty]

interesting article. It looks like it's part of the MOBO.

 

[balamw]

Will robson be built into HD's so people can just do a simple upgrade or is it a mobo thing?

As I understand it Robson is one of the many features expected to hit with the Santa Rosa chipset, a.k.a. Centrino Pro. i.e. on the mobo.

B

 

[Jasonbot]

As I understand it Robson is one of the many features expected to hit with the Santa Rosa chipset, a.k.a. Centrino Pro. i.e. on the mobo.

B

I heard somewhere that certain HD manufacturers want to put Solid State in HD's to be compatible with robson in the future, that would be nice...

How much storage space would be needed to install OSX startup on NAND flash?

 

[xUKHCx]

BTW, St Albania.

Cool that is where my dad grew up. I'm from Bushey.

much storage space would be needed to install OSX startup on NAND flash?

Not much, i remember seeing an article a little while ago explaining that you can put OSX on a 2 GB thumb drive.