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marlie

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Hi Guys,

Im in the process of building a new media centre for my living room, and would like a to start with a mac mini to run Plex, is it worth buying one now or will there be a new one released soon?
 
Folks here are speculating an update may be available by February-March, but thats only a guess.

I hear even the 2010 and 2011 models run plex very well, however. Not sure if a new version over a refurbished unit would buy you anything as a media server.
 
Buy now if you need / want a new computer now. If you are in no big rush, you might like to wait.

Changes to the Mini are likely to be evolutionary rather than revolutionary. For day to day use, I doubt that there will be any great difference.
 
One thing I know for sure. I myself would NEVER buy a mini with a spinner hard drive. Nope. No way! And it comes with a 5400 SLOW spinner.

SSD all the way baby!
 
Hi Guys,

Im in the process of building a new media centre for my living room, and would like a to start with a mac mini to run Plex, is it worth buying one now or will there be a new one released soon?

For plex there won't be much gain going from an Ivy Bridge to a Haswell based Mini. The biggest gains form Haswell was power consumption, but that doesn't do much for desktops. HD5000 vs HD4000 isn't much of a job especially when it comes to video playback (i.e. no advantage). If you need it now, go with what is out. Get a refurb if you can. Frankly even the Base mini should be fine for a media center.
 
There are upsides if this is going to be asleep or idle for most of the day. The usual notion for desktops is that they are on and being loaded down. But if is standby/idle is significant part of day it it is an issue especially if place it somewhere with limited ventilation and quiet.

HD5000 vs HD4000 isn't much of a job especially when it comes to video playback (i.e. no advantage).

If the new mini gets HD5000 series. I don't think that is a lock. Intel has priced may of the 5000 series CPU+GPUs outside the range that the Mini has a budget for.

Not sure if transcoding is limited to just x86. But yes confined to just playback it current Mini is capable.



Frankly even the Base mini should be fine for a media center.

If a sever if limited the number of clients shouldn't be a problem. If only the attached devices in the media center than should be fine.
 
Minis are overkill for media centers in my opinion. But then again I have an Apple TV streaming from my desktop.
 
try to find a good deal for a 2012 quad. here is the problem . the hd 4000 gpu works well enough with 1 1080p screen that apple does not have a lot of incentive to improve the mini.

Most minis run 1x 1080p type screen and they run it pretty well. (other then heavy duty gaming)

It will be hard to need a better video gpu until the Sony type tv sets with 4x pixels really lower in price

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-XBR55X85...TF8&qid=1386414552&sr=1-1&keywords=sony+4k+tv

when these screens make a real dent in homes huge video upgrades will be needed to be done. once you see this tv at a demo like best buy or wherever you will realize 1080p tv is meh but this costs too much.

My wife and I saw this in a sony style store. they had a rotational pan view of a bowl of raspberry's strawberry's and cherries. the bowl was read and the table clothe was red. the screen was 100% red and absolute perfection.
this screen will be the new driving force for computer upgrades. but it costs too much right now. I think in 2 years it will go close to 1k and get to be in more homes. I will then have a 2012 quad that will not work well enough with it and I will need the upgraded mini.
So if your gear is older then 2011 a 2010 or a 2008-9 machine get a 2012 on a deal. since the upgrade that does come out in 2014 will not really be a lot better and it won't do justice to a 4k tv/screen.
 
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The main differences to expect for the next Mac Mini are Haswell processors, which will mean a much better integrated GPU. This might make some improvement to Plex, but the integrated GPUs of current Mac Minis already have video decoding, so I'm not sure it'd be a huge difference.

Likewise the CPU difference will be various minor improvements to things like virtualisation. On the CPU side Haswell is fairly incremental though I think, no huge leap so possibly not going to matter to you. The biggest potential bonus is an Iris Pro CPU option (possibly a quad core built to order option), which will mean 128mb of L4 cache, which allows the GPU to function a lot more like a discrete GPU, or to accelerate CPU workloads, or some combination of the two.

Otherwise in terms of technology the Mac Mini may gain Thunderbolt 2 though it would be a bit strange for it to leap ahead like that. If they keep the current case design it may get two Thunderbolt ports, otherwise I'd expect a redesign to be even smaller, so most likely still only a single port. Either way I'd expect FireWire to go, as the Mac Mini is the only machine that still has it.

If there is a redesign then I'd expect the space for a second hard drive to go, to be replaced with a smaller space for an SSD blade, probably a much more compact design that pushes it even closer to an Apple TV (until the Apple TV is reduced to the size of a suppository that is).


Aside from all this; when you say a media centre, do you mean it'll be a Plex client or Plex server? If it's streaming video from elsewhere and just making it available on your TV then there may be much less expensive options; in fact I believe a Raspberry Pi can run the Plex client well enough for an HD TV.
 
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