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Nuc

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Hello everyone,

I'm will be needing a cheap PC desktop <$350 for school. It appears my department won't be getting me one so I need to find something decent. Virtual PC is to slow on my PB. I've been looking around for a cheap PC but am not sure what I should get. Will the AMD be better to go with than an Intel. I want something that is fast but doesn't have to be the best. Software is not a big issue since I can get it through the school.

Also if anyone is selling their PC let me know. It doesn't have to have a monitor with it.

Thanks for your suggestions,

Nuc
 

SummerBreeze

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My little brother got the cheapest Dell he could buy and just updated the graphics card so that he could play video games. It's worked great for him lately, especially after he got a 17" monitor to go with it. In my experience, HP computers also do pretty well.

I've owned three P.C.'s, two with AMD processors and one with Intel. They both worked well, but the AMD felt a bit snappier and played well with Photoshop. I'd say it doesn't really matter all too much though.
 

PCMacUser

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Nuc said:
Hello everyone,

I'm will be needing a cheap PC desktop <$350 for school. It appears my department won't be getting me one so I need to find something decent. Virtual PC is to slow on my PB. I've been looking around for a cheap PC but am not sure what I should get. Will the AMD be better to go with than an Intel. I want something that is fast but doesn't have to be the best. Software is not a big issue since I can get it through the school.

Also if anyone is selling their PC let me know. It doesn't have to have a monitor with it.

Thanks for your suggestions,

Nuc
Ah, it's a shame you're not in Oxford. I've got a dell pentium 4 computer that I'd happily sell for about US$100!

So therefore I'd suggest going for a cheap Intel Celeron PC.
 

Nuc

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Chips

I've looked at a computer w/ an AMD Sempron? and one with Intel Celeron which one would perform better?

Thanks,

Nuc
 

Nuc

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More questions

I have a question.

I talked with my father-in-law about my situation. I made a deal with him that he would get the computer in less than a year (when I finish my MS). I will pay for some of it and he can have it back when I'm through.

I'm looking at the Dell Dimension 9100 http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/featured_desktops?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&DGSite=qIrKQ2rHzgGjAkeu2b-30038252249

I have a choice to add the Pentium D (dual core) 2.8 GHz. Should I get this or the 3.2 GHz that is included with it??

Thanks,

Nuc
 

doucy2

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AMD i think beats the intel processors in my opinion
just biuld your own for cheap
 

Nuc

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doucy2 said:
AMD i think beats the intel processors in my opinion
just biuld your own for cheap
I really don't have to much time to build my own pc. Which would you suggest about which intel chip to go with the Pentium D (dual core) 2.8GHz or the 3.2GHz Pentium 4 w/HT.

My basic application is running engineering codes such as MCNP or Risk analysis codes. Which do you think would be better, will the dual core really speed up processing time??

Thanks,

Nuc

Edit: on further consideration the codes that I will be using are not optimized for duals so I think the 3.2GHz w/ HT would be better. No?
 

tutubibi

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Don't go with Dell. It's overpriced and not upgradable (=Celeron with integrated video) in the price range you are looking for.

I recently purchased HP/Compaq SR1610NX. It has AMD Sempron 3200+ (beats Celeron in every category). Has USB2, firewire, combo drive, 80 GB HDD. Comes with only 256 GB of RAM but that's easy and cheap to upgrade. Video is upgradable (has PCI-E slot). Very quiet too, I am using it as PVR running Linux (what a waste that Windows license).
Pretty good machine once you upgrade memory. As a bonus, CPU is 64-bit (Sempron 3200+ is actually 64-bit Athlon with half the cache).

Link to US specs:

http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/s...bcat1=rts&catLevel=3&product_code=ED865AA#ABA
 

itsbetteronamac

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Dual Core all the way! You not going to even notice the slightly higher clock speed. But when your importing a CD and IMing and Surfing all at the same time you will definatly notice the Dual!

Be smart, plan for the future. ;) Also, 2 is almost always better than 1.
 

Nuc

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itsbetteronamac said:
Dual Core all the way! You not going to even notice the slightly higher clock speed. But when your importing a CD and IMing and Surfing all at the same time you will definatly notice the Dual!

Be smart, plan for the future. ;) Also, 2 is almost always better than 1.
Actually I won't be using the computer for internet surfing. I will use my PB for this. I'm going to keep the PC away from the internet as much as possible. I will be mainly running engineering codes, not optimized on dual processors. But my father-in-law may benefit from using the dual once he gets it. As for performance, which would be faster and by how much. I've seen mixed reviews between the Pentium D 820 and Pentium 4 540. But I was wanting your thoughts on this.

Nuc
 

freiheit

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As you said you need something that's fast but not the best. That tells me you don't need dual-core, especially if you're looking for something under $350 for the whole PC. A 3.2GHz Pentium 4 is a darned good processor (and comparable to about a 2.2GHz Athlon). Unless you're going to be running Mathematica or doing raytracing or something, the dual-core won't make a huge difference, though it will cost more, use more power and generate more heat.
 

Nuc

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update

Well I purchased a Dell Dimension 9100 with the Pentium D 2.8Ghz. This thing is pretty darn fast, I was surprised. I haven't fully tested it out yet but from what I can tell it's comparable if not faster than the Pentium 4 3.2Ghz. For $50 more I couldn't resist the upgrade.

Nuc
 

tekmoe

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celeron is definitely cheap. don't pay more than $100 bucks for one, if that! ;)
 

SpookTheHamster

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Don't get an Intel dual-core. They really haven't worked it out yet. Get an AMD, it may be more expensive to begin with, but you'll save on the electricity bills ;)
 

Nuc

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Don't agree w/ you about the Dual Core...

SpookTheHamster said:
Don't get an Intel dual-core. They really haven't worked it out yet. Get an AMD, it may be more expensive to begin with, but you'll save on the electricity bills ;)
I don't agree with you about them not working it out yet. Haven't heard anything bad about them so far. All I can say is I'm extremely happy with it's performance so far. I think it's actually faster than the schools 3.2 Ghz Pentium 4 w/ HT. Of course I'm don't have all of the programs and stuff that the school has to slow it down.

I'm not paying for the energy bill...the computer is at school so I don't have to worry about that. :D

Nuc
 
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