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Bongolo

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Aug 18, 2006
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Hi there,

I have seen no mention of battery calibration in my new MBP C2D manual.

Does the battery actually need calibrating? :confused:

Many thanks.

/Bongolo
 

wiraone

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Oct 31, 2006
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My three weeks old C2D MBP is showing 14 cycles. I do run on battery most of the time and I've only done one recalibration. Is it bad to run down the battery to less than 30% before charging it back up? Should I not let the battery lower than 50% full before charging up? What is the percentage before the MBP consider it as one charge cycle?
 

emotion

macrumors 68040
Mar 29, 2004
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Manchester, UK
My three weeks old C2D MBP is showing 14 cycles. I do run on battery most of the time and I've only done one recalibration. Is it bad to run down the battery to less than 30% before charging it back up? Should I not let the battery lower than 50% full before charging up? What is the percentage before the MBP consider it as one charge cycle?


I always run Li-Ion batteries right down before recharging. It's a habit from older technology to prevent memory effect (I don't think LiIon has this prob though).

Batteries in both my laptops are both in good shape so I think it helps (I have 2.5 yr old powerbook rev c 12" with 3.5 hours capacity still).
 

Omegamanstyle

macrumors newbie
Oct 11, 2006
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Pennsylvania, USA

this is actually the calibration process for PowerBooks. The calibration process for MacBookPros is a little different. Check this out:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.4/en/mh2339.html

I calibrated my 15" C2D MBP in the first 48 hours when i got it about three weeks ago. I run mostly off the power cord, but my iStatPro says that it's gone through ten cycles. It seems that if I drain the battery below 90%, then recharge, that counts as a cycle.:(

Oh well.
 

graln1k

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Nov 26, 2006
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this is actually the calibration process for PowerBooks. The calibration process for MacBookPros is a little different. Check this out:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.4/en/mh2339.html

I calibrated my 15" C2D MBP in the first 48 hours when i got it about three weeks ago. I run mostly off the power cord, but my iStatPro says that it's gone through ten cycles. It seems that if I drain the battery below 90%, then recharge, that counts as a cycle.:(

Oh well.

Are you allowed to use the computer during step one or do I have to stare at my pretty computer for (how many hours) while it completes the initial charge?
 

ToastMaster

macrumors regular
Nov 10, 2005
217
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Tacoma, WA
My three weeks old C2D MBP is showing 14 cycles. I do run on battery most of the time and I've only done one recalibration. Is it bad to run down the battery to less than 30% before charging it back up? Should I not let the battery lower than 50% full before charging up? What is the percentage before the MBP consider it as one charge cycle?

Hmmm... is it bad to have a lot of cycles? My iStat pro widget says that I have 40, but I still get decent battery life.
 

sycho

macrumors 6502a
Oct 7, 2006
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Code:
  Battery Installed:	Yes
  First low level warning:	No
  Full Charge Capacity (mAh):	5646
  Remaining Capacity (mAh):	5446
  Amperage (mA):	0
  Voltage (mV):	12390
  Cycle Count:	23

I got this guy near the beginning of the month, and I have been running it off of the power apator for several days now. Do that mean I lost 200mA of capacity in the first month alone?:confused:
 

NJuul

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Mar 15, 2006
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Boston
Code:
  Battery Installed:	Yes
  First low level warning:	No
  Full Charge Capacity (mAh):	5646
  Remaining Capacity (mAh):	5446
  Amperage (mA):	0
  Voltage (mV):	12390
  Cycle Count:	23

I got this guy near the beginning of the month, and I have been running it off of the power apator for several days now. Do that mean I lost 200mA of capacity in the first month alone?:confused:


No, that means that when your battery is fully charged, you have a capacity of 5646 mAh. At present you have 5446 mAh left of a full charge. It says "charged" when the battery is charged to between 95% and 100%, which means that your battery will only start to re-charge if your battery has less than 95% juice left. It's to prevent it from doing small-scale recharging when the battery is almost fully charged, which preserves battery life. You can try and unplug the mbp, and when the meter says 94%, plug it back in. It will now charge to 100%.
 

sycho

macrumors 6502a
Oct 7, 2006
865
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No, that means that when your battery is fully charged, you have a capacity of 5646 mAh. At present you have 5446 mAh left of a full charge. It says "charged" when the battery is charged to between 95% and 100%, which means that your battery will only start to re-charge if your battery has less than 95% juice left. It's to prevent it from doing small-scale recharging when the battery is almost fully charged, which preserves battery life. You can try and unplug the mbp, and when the meter says 94%, plug it back in. It will now charge to 100%.

ok, thank you.:)
 

imMAColata

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Sep 26, 2006
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I always run Li-Ion batteries right down before recharging. It's a habit from older technology to prevent memory effect (I don't think LiIon has this prob though).

Batteries in both my laptops are both in good shape so I think it helps (I have 2.5 yr old powerbook rev c 12" with 3.5 hours capacity still).

Lithium polymer batteries are AFAIK best served by "topping" off rather than completely discharging them. They do not develop memory but degrade over time and from each charge cycle. I dont think you want to deep discharge yoru batteries too often, it is merely helping them degrade faster.
 

emotion

macrumors 68040
Mar 29, 2004
3,186
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Manchester, UK
Lithium polymer batteries are AFAIK best served by "topping" off rather than completely discharging them. They do not develop memory but degrade over time and from each charge cycle. I dont think you want to deep discharge yoru batteries too often, it is merely helping them degrade faster.

Interesting article I've found:

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm

It also suggests removing batteries when plugged in because of heat.
 

vega07

macrumors 65816
Aug 7, 2006
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LOL I haven't calibrated since i got my MBP. I am at 71 load cycles and still at 99% battery capacity :D
wow that's pretty good for 71 cycles.

Coconut battery shows that my battery is 93% after 40 cycles.

IStat Nano shows 96%.

which one is correct?
 

countach

macrumors regular
Oct 23, 2006
146
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I always run Li-Ion batteries right down before recharging. It's a habit from older technology to prevent memory effect (I don't think LiIon has this prob though).

Batteries in both my laptops are both in good shape so I think it helps (I have 2.5 yr old powerbook rev c 12" with 3.5 hours capacity still).

As I understand you're better off NOT running it down with LiIon most of the time.
 

mr_matalino

macrumors 6502a
Oct 14, 2005
563
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this is actually the calibration process for PowerBooks. The calibration process for MacBookPros is a little different. Check this out:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.4/en/mh2339.html

I calibrated my 15" C2D MBP in the first 48 hours when i got it about three weeks ago. I run mostly off the power cord, but my iStatPro says that it's gone through ten cycles. It seems that if I drain the battery below 90%, then recharge, that counts as a cycle.:(

Oh well.

Actually if you read it...it does say MacBook Pro (all models) :p
 
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