Other Calling out Apple's iOS update Battery Shenanigans

[trfc54]

I've been derided for making this point in previous threads, but as an SE owner, and having bought two iphone 7 plus phones for my parents, this is really bothersome to me and I feel Apple needs to be called out on it. Whenever I or other posters bring up battery problems on older devices after iOS updates, we are always given a canned response from a certain subsection of apple fans:

-It's an old phone, time to replace the battery. Fine, some people fork over the money to replace the battery and still see the same effects, and are given a response "well it's an old phone, upgrade to the latest one."

We are told it's a one off case and there is no proof of this. When people find news articles such as these as further evidence: https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordon...pgrade-iphone-11-pro-max-update/#7cbeda8f2867, they are just dismissed.

Let's say you don't replace the battery. Why would an "old-phone" with over 95% battery health all of a sudden have worse battery life after an iOS update? The hardware surely could not have deteriorated so much within a span of a few days.

This bothers me because I feel it's an unethical practice by apple to not give any warnings about this before iOS updates are performed, and it seems to be a ploy to funnel their already heavy pockets even more.

 

[eyoungren]

I can't speak directly to what Apple does or does not do. However, I will say that I believe there is an update fanaticism. As in 'always have to be updating'.

I learned a long time ago with Macs that this can bite you in the ass at the wrong time. So I gave up being on the bleeding edge of updates for anything.

I've largely avoided all this Apple batterygate garbage simply because my 6s+ has been sitting on iOS 9.0.2 for the last four years. I'm jailbroken, so it's easy to ignore updates you aren't notified about but I'd be the same way stock. My iPad is stock on iOS 13, but it's not on the latest update. I guess I just find updating easy to ignore.

 

[CarboysDesire]

The new update is affecting new phones too I believe I read last night. I’ll see if I can find the article to confirm.

 

[Tsepz]

I've been derided for making this point in previous threads, but as an SE owner, and having bought two iphone 7 plus phones for my parents, this is really bothersome to me and I feel Apple needs to be called out on it. Whenever I or other posters bring up battery problems on older devices after iOS updates, we are always given a canned response from a certain subsection of apple fans:

-It's an old phone, time to replace the battery. Fine, some people fork over the money to replace the battery and still see the same effects, and are given a response "well it's an old phone, upgrade to the latest one."

We are told it's a one off case and there is no proof of this. When people find news articles such as these as further evidence: https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordon...pgrade-iphone-11-pro-max-update/#7cbeda8f2867, they are just dismissed.

Let's say you don't replace the battery. Why would an "old-phone" with over 95% battery health all of a sudden have worse battery life after an iOS update? The hardware surely could not have deteriorated so much within a span of a few days.

This bothers me because I feel it's an unethical practice by apple to not give any warnings about this before iOS updates are performed, and it seems to be a ploy to funnel their already heavy pockets even more.

Unfortunately there are people in this forum who will defend every little decision Apple makes (even when Apple go back in what they said).

It’s messed up what you are experiencing and I see it over and over and over again in this forum, and I do believe not just Apple, but Samsung as well need to be called out on this, and probably a few other OEMs to.

Sony are actually one of the few OEMs who have focused on ensuring that batteries age well and are not too heavily affected by updates.

I think the long and short of it is that many of them could not be bothered to optimise the update for older phones and so they slap what they can to get the update to work and then they move on as they don’t make much from that phone anymore. One does need to remember that they are out to make money and nothing else and keep shareholders happy.

 

[Timothy Leo Crowley]

You've identified exactly nothing that apple has done that is unethical. Gear gets old. Battery's get weak. All your issues have been addressed. Move on or find an "ethical" company you like doing business with. Those are really your only other choices.

 

[trfc54]

You've identified exactly nothing that apple has done that is unethical. Gear gets old. Battery's get weak. All your issues have been addressed. Move on or find an "ethical" company you like doing business with. Those are really your only other choices.

They have not been addressed. Buying new hardware to fix an "update" problem is not addressing an issue. Sure I can move on, but as a customer, I feel within my rights to voice my displeasure.

 

[CarboysDesire]

Iphone 11 Pro users affected as well.

Some iPhone users on iOS 13.1.3 complain of severe battery drain after update

Some iPhone users who have upgraded to the latest stable version of iOS 13 have been complaining on social media and Apple’s forums about faster …

bgr.com

 

[willmtaylor]

Citing Gordon Kelly never helps one case...ever....

 

[coffeeplease]

The newest software updates will use more battery, that's just the cost of adding more and more features. This plus your battery degrading, the battery just won't be the same as the day you bought it. Features will always come before performance in software development.

I'd advise you not to update to the latest OS or wait a few weeks to see how other people's battery behaves before updating.

 

[Azathoth123]

Battery life issues also seem more common in ‘point 0’ and early OS versions vs later versions. I had noticeably worse battery life in WatchOS 6.0, but 6.0.1 seems to have fixed those issues completely. You might want to hold off updates until the ‘point 1‘ release.

Also read the MR troubleshooting forums (like this one) before upgrading - give it a few days, if an update is causing issues someone here will be posting a thread - like this one! I always have an eye on MR forums For a few days especially before that .0 upgrade.