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Can anyone recommend a Mail app that works please?

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Peter Franks

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The sheer frustration of having to see this several times a day on any email that has attachments, on iPad and iPhone, since iOS 18, (and nothing has been done in the 2 updates since), is one of the most annoying things I've experienced on iPhone, aside from it now not syncing IMAP anymore when sent on another iOS 18 device.

iOS18 has destroyed any productivity I could once do on iPhone while out and about, since iPhone 4. Just awful.
You can close Mail app and re open as much as you like, it takes an hour and even then, they won't all load, You just see this, till you eventually just give up, and I do. And I now have to wait till back in the office on desktop. iOS now redundant for the most part.

So.... anyone have any suggestions as it doesn't look like Apple will ever fix this problem now. Much like their 'Follow Up suggestions' PITA years ago that I still get almost daily by the bucketload, despite it being set to off from day one.

Outlook and Spark I've tried and not mad about, is there anything closer to the Mail app on iOS?
Thanks for any help
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triptolemus said:
Thank you for taking the time to make this suggestion. I'd never heard of Spark before, and today I'm all in. Just moved all personal and work accounts to it and it is excellent. Leaving Mail.app, Outlook, Gmail (web), and Thunderbird behind.
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I find it incredible that Apple haven't addressed several new email problems for many people, in over two months, with 3 releases since, and am sure many will follow.
 
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ibookemo said:
Yeah Spark is by far the most solid. Actually Outlook is pretty solid, boring but solid.
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Did try Outlook for a bit, but logs out all the time, and it's more of a mess than the standard 'Mail' app, which I'm so used to (when it worked).
 
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+1 for Spark. I have used it exclusively for a few years now. I just use the free version since I don't really heavily use email in my personal life. But I really like it for when I do use it. I use it on my iPhone and on my MacBook Air.
 
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Is someone emailing you a ton of photos, like an album? Email is not made for that, realistically. They should share photo album links from sites like Google Photos or share an album through Apple Photos. If you’re attaching more than a few files to an email you’re using it wrong, imo.

Email was designed to mimic real life letter mail. Hence the name. Imagine sending a letter to someone. You could stuff in a few Polaroids, but if you wanna send a whole bunch of them, like tens or hundreds, it wouldn’t fit in an envelope. Instead, you would make a photo album book and mail it as a package. The link in the email to a photo album is like sending them a package instead of a letter.
 
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Trying outlook these days for work account.
So far so good. Much better than Mail.
Having the attachments available at the top of the screen is a huge plus.
 
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ypnos said:
Trying outlook these days for work account.
So far so good. Much better than Mail.
Having the attachments available at the top of the screen is a huge plus.
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Another vote for Outlook. I like the Calendar integrated in the mail app. My only composing is it doesn't accesses iOS contacts directly.
 
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macfacts said:
thats not a apple problem , tell the user to look up "netiquette email attacthments"
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If it's not an Apple problem, why have I never had this problem ever before, since my iPhone 4, whenever that was. And it's only just happened since iOS18?

Pics loaded pretty instantly, and now they don't. I also randomly don't get the synced sent email in iPad or Mac, if sent from iPhone. And vice versa. Also, never had this problem before either, until iOS 18
A quick Google search does show I'm not alone with either of those problems.
MakaniKai said:
Is someone emailing you a ton of photos, like an album? Email is not made for that, realistically. They should share photo album links from sites like Google Photos or share an album through Apple Photos. If you’re attaching more than a few files to an email you’re using it wrong, imo.

Email was designed to mimic real life letter mail. Hence the name. Imagine sending a letter to someone. You could stuff in a few Polaroids, but if you wanna send a whole bunch of them, like tens or hundreds, it wouldn’t fit in an envelope. Instead, you would make a photo album book and mail it as a package. The link in the email to a photo album is like sending them a package instead of a letter.
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Don't disagree, but like I say, I've never had this problem until iOS18.
But I have this attachment problem even when receiving just 2 to 4 images. Takes forever and just sits on 'downloading'.
 
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Peter Franks said:
Don't disagree, but like I say, I've never had this problem until iOS18.
But I have this attachment problem even when receiving just 2 to 4 images. Takes forever and just sits on 'downloading'.
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Yeah honestly even if it’s not the “correct” way to do emails, I think Apple should be able to support it. Downloading 50 (or whatever) attachments is really not that much of an ask for a modern phone. It’s like nothing compared to how much crap gets downloaded on every single web page. I’m sorry you’re dealing with this
 
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MakaniKai said:
Is someone emailing you a ton of photos, like an album? Email is not made for that, realistically. They should share photo album links from sites like Google Photos or share an album through Apple Photos. If you’re attaching more than a few files to an email you’re using it wrong, imo.

Email was designed to mimic real life letter mail. Hence the name. Imagine sending a letter to someone. You could stuff in a few Polaroids, but if you wanna send a whole bunch of them, like tens or hundreds, it wouldn’t fit in an envelope. Instead, you would make a photo album book and mail it as a package. The link in the email to a photo album is like sending them a package instead of a letter.
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iCloud photos sharing works well for many photos.. and Mail Drop (jump into Mail for that one, but I usually use Superhuman) works well for large attachments. I use DropOver as well, which for me is a HUGE help quite often
 
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MakaniKai said:
Yeah honestly even if it’s not the “correct” way to do emails, I think Apple should be able to support it. Downloading 50 (or whatever) attachments is really not that much of an ask for a modern phone. It’s like nothing compared to how much crap gets downloaded on every single web page. I’m sorry you’re dealing with this
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Bless ya man. I know it sounds overly dramatic to most, but I receive images every day from colleagues for work and have never had a problem prior to 18, and it allowed me to be out and about, but since iOS18 I have to be mostly desk bound because I can't work remotely anymore. That's my issue. I can't really say I've any problem with any other aspect of iOS18 on my iPad Air or iPhone to be honest, it's purely the Mail which is most of my day's activity.

Jakimo said:
iCloud photos sharing works well for many photos.. and Mail Drop (jump into Mail for that one, but I usually use Superhuman) works well for large attachments. I use DropOver as well, which for me is a HUGE help quite often
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It's rarely Mac users on the other end, but Windows desk people that send most of my work, sadly
 
Apple has let me down in the past, but never left me completely hanging like with this IPAM mail issue. The first time I've ever seriously considered switching to Samsung and being done with it. It's one thing to be incompetent, but quite another to be contemptuous of your customers. Just outrageous.
 
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Makanmata said:
Apple has let me down in the past, but never left me completely hanging like with this IPAM mail issue. The first time I've ever seriously considered switching to Samsung and being done with it. It's one thing to be incompetent, but quite another to be contemptuous of your customers. Just outrageous.
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I agree. I've never ever felt like it would be easier to just go to Android, but these last few months have definitely made me think about it. I've had various problems in the past with some iOS releases, but every time it's righted itself, and is workable again, There are a few things that still annoy like the 'follow up' suggestions in Mail that I've had turned off since the introduction but still get loads of alerts for it anyway, and it's never been rectified in a dozen updates, but you can live with that, but this Mail problem now, IMAP synching and the awful frustration of waiting 10 minutes for half a download.......
 
This is a very obvious problem with 1 or more E-Mails or dragged files in your Mail Account and not an Apple Problem.
I would search for the image files in the E-Mail Program.
 
If you are exclusively Gmail based, Mimestream is fantastic. It is a paid app (and a 14 day free trial) and they are working on more features including iOS apps.

If you use other email, Spark. I prefer the original Spark over their Spark Desktop with AI. There is a free & paid version.

If Mimestream were able to connect to other email services, it would probably be my exclusive email app.
 
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