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MewMew

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Dear All,

The Scenario:

1. Running Ventura on 2017 iMac (Core I7) with 1 Tb memory with 500GB used. My Main computer.
2. Have an iMac M1 running Sonoma but only 256GB memory.
3. I have an Acasis NVME TB4 drive with 2TB SSD

Possible Solution?
1. Make the Acasis a bootable Sonoma Drive attached to the iMac M1
2. Boot into Sonoma with the SSD
3. Attach the 2017 iMac to the M1 iMac
4. Run Migration assistant to copy over 2017 to M1

Will I now be able to use my M1 iMac as my Main with all the prior 2017 accounts moved over?

Thank you in advance!

MM
 

Fishrrman

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I think you can do what (I think) you're proposing.

Connect the Acasis external to the NEW iMac.

I would "wipe it clean" first using disk utility.
(in disk utility, MAKE SURE you go to the view menu and choose "show all devices" -- or you may not be able to see the physical drive in "the list on the left").

Then, I'd install Sonoma onto the external drive.

When the install is done, begin setup.
At this point you want to connect the OLD iMac ... I'd try ethernet.

Use setup/migration assistant to migrate everything from the OLD iMac to the Acasis drive.

Now you should be able to boot/run from the external drive if you want.

BUT BE AWARE:
Booting/running from the external drive (unless it's thunderbolt) will be somewhat slower than it would be to boot/run from the NEW iMac's internal SSD.

Can you live with that?
 

FreakinEurekan

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Yes, you could do as you describe.

I wouldn't personally do it that way... I'd still boot & use the internal SSD as primary, for the reasons @Fishrrman stated - performance is better. You can store "Data" on the external, even with the user account on the internal.

There are a couple of possible ways to accomplish that; you might still be able to use Migration Assistant but un-tick "Documents and files from apps." Chances are, that will remove enough of your 500GB to let it migrate successfully. Then you'll manually copy over your data to the external disk.

If that doesn't bring the size down enough for the new Mac, you might be able to also eliminate Apps from the migration; you'd have to reinstall your apps manually. Or you could go complete manual on the migration.
 
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Ben J.

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Yes, you could do as you describe.

I wouldn't personally do it that way... I'd still boot & use the internal SSD as primary, for the reasons @Fishrrman stated - performance is better. You can store "Data" on the external, even with the user account on the internal.

There are a couple of possible ways to accomplish that; you might still be able to use Migration Assistant but un-tick "Documents and files from apps." Chances are, that will remove enough of your 500GB to let it migrate successfully. Then you'll manually copy over your data to the external disk.

If that doesn't bring the size down enough for the new Mac, you might be able to also eliminate Apps from the migration; you'd have to reinstall your apps manually. Or you could go complete manual on the migration.
I agree. No need to make the external drive your boot-drive. Just use the already installed Sonoma system to store system, apps, and user folder and start using the 2TB external drive to store large folders. Those are usually photos, movies, and music folders inside your user folder. I've done this many times on internal drives as small as 128GB.

If you don't have a backup of the 500GB disk, first thing you do is create one. You don't need to learn about Time Machine or buy a backup app, just plug in your 2TB external and drag your user folder (MacHD/Users/yourname) to it to create a copy.

Having a backup of your user folder, you can continue without worrying about screwing up. That copy of the user folder contains everything you need to recreate your system if you need to.

On the 2017 imac, you want to empty the photos, movies, music folders and any other large folder that you don't want on the 256GB before doing the migration to the M1 imac.

You might want to establish which folders and files are taking up space first. You could check 'Get info' on the folders I mentioned, and with some mathematics you can figure out if emptying them will free up enough space to let the rest fit on the 256GB. You could also use an app like Daisydisk which lets you quickly get an overview of what's taking up space.

On the 2017 imac, empty the folders that you want to sit on the external and not the internal from now on, by moving their contents to the trash (You have a backup, remember), and you're ready to do the account import with Migration Assistant.

Do the user account import to the M1 imac. Full migration. Don't deselect anything.

Organize the folders on the 2TB the way you want them; ie a Photos folder, a Movies folder and so on and fill them with the contents of the backup you made. I would suggest you copy their contents, not move, but pressing and holding 'option' when dragging the data, so the backed up folder remains intact.

The Music, TV, Movies, Photos etc will now open without content, because they're looking for data in the default locations in the user folder that are now empty. You need to redirect those apps to the new folders on the 2TB, most apps have a preferences setting that allows you to select the new folders. You might also need to reload their catalogs/playlists, this is done by pressing and holding option at app launch.

This might seem convoluted, but it's how I would approach it. Anyway, it's completely possible to have system, apps and essential files on a small internal drive like 256, and use external storage for big data.

Btw, the term 'memory' is not used for disks, it's otherwise known as RAM (random access memory), while disks, drives, volumes are most often referred to as 'storage'.
 
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MewMew

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Hi All,

Thanks for your responses and advice. It is much appreciated. I'm typing this on the migrated system.

I ended up making the 2TB ACASIS bootable and installed Sonoma on it. I had too many files and folders on the 2017 iMac and not enough time to whittle it down to under 256GB. I had already spent 2 days whittling it down from about 500gb down to 300gb. I took the easy route, lol.

Booted up the iMac M1 with the external drive. Getting read/write speeds crazy fast with TB4 - about 2800MB/s. Boot up is pretty darn fast. No lag noted at all when running the system.

Migration assistant over ethernet. I really need to figure out this networking thing. Most of the time running really slow at 30Mb/s and telling me this will take 12 hours. Then, all of a sudden, it hit Gb speeds the dropped back again. Not sure why such variation in my network using ASUS router. Still, took only about 2 - 3 hours.

Everything seems to work. I did by a Plugables/Displaylink adapter so that I can drive 3 screens with my M1. Working well.

QUESTION: does anyone know if I can use the M1 to drive a 5k studio display and use the Plugables/Displaylink to drive an older 2K Apple Cinema Display?

Thanks, again!
 

FreakinEurekan

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QUESTION: does anyone know if I can use the M1 to drive a 5k studio display and use the Plugables/Displaylink to drive an older 2K Apple Cinema Display?
Hard to say - the Cinema Display requires a dual-link DVI adapter. I've not heard of anyone using one via DisplayLink but perhaps someone can tell you.
 
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