Cannot turn off Rest Finger to Open

[sekazi]

Technically I have it turned off in the settings but it still acts like it is enabled. I press the home button and it immediately unlocks the phone. I have about a 0.001 second window to release the finger once pressed.

iPhone 7 Plus
iOS 10.0.2

 

[Feenician]

Technically I have it turned off in the settings but it still acts like it is enabled. I press the home button and it immediately unlocks the phone. I have about a 0.001 second window to release the finger once pressed.

iPhone 7 Plus
iOS 10.0.2

By "unlock" I presume you mean go the the home screen and not merely display "unlocked"? If so, It's designed to do that if you leave your finger on home without doing anything else.

Potential remedies/workarounds if it's too fast for you: -

- Use raise to wake. It will not go to the home screen (though it will unlock)

- Use an unregistered finger to wake it

- Use the power button to wake it

 

[sekazi]

The description of Rest Finger to Open is "Open iPhone with Touch ID, without having to press the Home button."

I press once to wake and it immediately goes to the home screen. This is what I would expect the feature above means.

Messing with it a bit more I can get the lock screen to stay and it says Unlocked at the top and resting on the button does nothing. but if wake it and I leave my finger there longer it goes to the home screen. If I use the power button and rest my finger it does not go home and requires a press.

I guess if this is how it is suppose to work I will just use the tip of my fingers.

 

[beernut]

i believe it's a bug but with the Raise-to-Wake setting.

when Raise-to-wake is ENABLED, the setting for "Rest finger to open" is ignored; it will always act as if rest-finger-to-open is enabled.

if you have "raise-to-wake-" DISABLED, you can then disable/enable "rest finger to open" accordingly.

 

[marty1980]

iPhone 6 Plus

I have similar issue. I switched this setting so I could get right to my home screen. However, I find that Touch ID is still only unlocking the lock screen. I've training myself to just push down on the Home button repeatedly until it unlocks LOL

I think there's a bug somewhere here or the feature doesn't work how I expected (like iOS 9).

 

[sekazi]

i believe it's a bug but with the Raise-to-Wake setting.

when Raise-to-wake is ENABLED, the setting for "Rest finger to open" is ignored; it will always act as if rest-finger-to-open is enabled.

if you have "raise-to-wake-" DISABLED, you can then disable/enable "rest finger to open" accordingly.

At least if I am quick enough or use the power button or tip of my finger with Raise to Wake disabled and Rest Finger to Open disabled I can manage to get the lock screen to stay even if I rest my finger on the home button.

 

[beernut]

At least if I am quick enough or use the power button or tip of my finger with Raise to Wake disabled and Rest Finger to Open disabled I can manage to get the lock screen to stay even if I rest my finger on the home button.

you may have tested before my edit and then quoted after, but what you describe is what i'm seeing as the bug. (i was basically trying to describe what i wrote here: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...is-laying-flat-on-desk.2002348/#post-23622712 )

 

[chabig]

Technically I have it turned off in the settings but it still acts like it is enabled. I press the home button and it immediately unlocks the phone.

It's working as it should. You pressed the home button, which woke and unlocked the phone. You didn't just rest your finger.
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The description of Rest Finger to Open is "Open iPhone with Touch ID, without having to press the Home button."

But you did press the home button though. You said so. If you just rest your finger, I'm sure it won't unlock your device.

 

[sekazi]

you may have tested before my edit and then quoted after, but what you describe is what i'm seeing as the bug. (i was basically trying to describe what i wrote here: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...is-laying-flat-on-desk.2002348/#post-23622712 )

Yes that is definitely a bug but with both disabled there is still a bug. It should not be unlocking if you leave the finger on the button after pressing it once as the first press is to turn on the screen.

 

[chabig]

It's not a bug. The first press does it all, by design. That's how TouchID has always worked since the iPhone 5S. Apple makes things simple. Requiring a double-press would be stupid.

Rest finger to unlock means you don't press the button.

 

[Armen]

Technically I have it turned off in the settings but it still acts like it is enabled. I press the home button and it immediately unlocks the phone. I have about a 0.001 second window to release the finger once pressed.

iPhone 7 Plus
iOS 10.0.2

Restart your phone.

 

[Feenician]

The description of Rest Finger to Open is "Open iPhone with Touch ID, without having to press the Home button."

I press once to wake and it immediately goes to the home screen. This is what I would expect the feature above means.

Messing with it a bit more I can get the lock screen to stay and it says Unlocked at the top and resting on the button does nothing. but if wake it and I leave my finger there longer it goes to the home screen. If I use the power button and rest my finger it does not go home and requires a press.

I guess if this is how it is suppose to work I will just use the tip of my fingers.

Right. The description isn't great. Maybe it should say "Always open iPhone with TouchID, without having to press the home button". It's by design that it works the way it works (whether it's a good design or not, I leave no comment as I've been drawn into more than enough debates about it here). Without that setting on, if you then engage with your notifications or widgets screen you must then press the home button to get to the home screen. With it on you can merely rest to get there; the downside of that is you can't unlock at the lock screen and deal with secure notifications.

 

[batting1000]

The function is working properly...Pressing the home button is what unlocks the device...it's new in 10.0. Rest Finger to open is for when you raise to wake or use the sleep wake button and then put your finger on the button...it makes it so you don't have to press the home button in those 2 cases.

 

[Feenician]

The function is working properly...Pressing the home button is what unlocks the device...it's new in 10.0. Rest Finger to open is for when you raise to wake or use the sleep wake button and then put your finger on the button...it makes it so you don't have to press the home button in those 2 cases.

This isn't quite right but I don't blame you, seems like few people really have this mapped out in their head. It either speaks poorly of the feature, the education around the feature, or both.

Rest doesn't just change the behavior in those situations you describe (raise to wake and sleep button). In fact basically any interaction with the lock screen (or peripheral functions of it) after waking the phone mean you then have to press the button, not just rest. Try waking it and scrolling notifications, sliding to camera or sliding to widgets. After that you must press the button to get to the home screen.

The only reason I don't tell people to turn on the rest finger option is because I expect we'll see more and more widgets and rich notifications that require you to unlock to perform some interactions. People who have that (accessibility) feature on will, instead of just unlocking and interacting with the widget/notification, be thrown to the home screen. If nothing comes of that, and no developer uses that authentication, then the ability to unlock on the lock screen is basically there for nothing. Only time will tell I guess.

 

[batting1000]

This isn't quite right but I don't blame you, seems like few people really have this mapped out in their head. It either speaks poorly of the feature, the education around the feature, or both.

Rest doesn't just change the behavior in those situations you describe (raise to wake and sleep button). In fact basically any interaction with the lock screen (or peripheral functions of it) after waking the phone mean you then have to press the button, not just rest. Try waking it and scrolling notifications, sliding to camera or sliding to widgets. After that you must press the button to get to the home screen.

The only reason I don't tell people to turn on the rest finger option is because I expect we'll see more and more widgets and rich notifications that require you to unlock to perform some interactions. People who have that (accessibility) feature on will, instead of just unlocking and interacting with the widget/notification, be thrown to the home screen. If nothing comes of that, and no developer uses that authentication, then the ability to unlock on the lock screen is basically there for nothing. Only time will tell I guess.

All I'm saying is every time I raise to wake or turn the screen on with the lock button and then rest my finger on the home button, it goes to the home screen. You have to be on the main lock screen though. If you're on the widgets, it unlocks but keeps you on the widget page.

 

[Feenician]

All I'm saying is every time I raise to wake or turn the screen on with the lock button and then rest my finger on the home button, it goes to the home screen. You have to be on the main lock screen though. If you're on the widgets, it unlocks but keeps you on the widget page.

You don't have to be on the widgets page, that's what I'm saying. Move to the widgets, then move back and you still have to press. Any interaction at the lock screen means you then need to press.

 

[batting1000]

You don't have to be on the widgets page, that's what I'm saying. Move to the widgets, then move back and you still have to press. Any interaction at the lock screen means you then need to press.

Exactly, that's what I was getting at. I was giving an example. It's for unlocking right after bringing the screen up which is how it worked previously.

 

[Feenician]

Exactly, that's what I was getting at. I was giving an example. It's for unlocking right after bringing the screen up which is how it worked previously.

Ah. Well there you go, can't even talk about this feature without confusion

I personally never had any trouble with it but I can sort of see where some complaints come from. It shouldn't be hard for anyone to internalize it once they do get it though, it's hardly rocket science.