Canon mirrorless to affect "mirrored" prices?

[anewman143]

So - with the release of Canon's new mirrorless system of body and lenses, adapters, etc - what is the general consensus on the possible effect on "mirrored" body prices - considering moving up to the 5d mark iv - wondering if I should wait a few more months to see if any price drops pop up...

Thoughts?

 

[Strider64]

My suggestion before buying any camera system is to look at the reviews from various cameras. As for MILC, I personally don't see prices going down on the newer models for Canon and Nikon just introduced their Full Frame MILC cameras and Sony A7 III, Sony A7R III and Sony A9 cameras on on the third generation. I usually go by the advice that one should not buy the first generation, but if you're tied into the Canon Eco System or Canon is your favorite brand then I can see going with it. As for DSLR there are a lot of people still swear by that format and mirror cameras are a proven format for they have years on mirrorless cameras especially when it comes to Full Frame. I personally don't see camera prices dropping in a few months on these new cameras, for most camera manufacturers don't have the market they once had due to smartphones killing the consumer market. They have to gear their cameras towards professional users, thusly they tend to keep their prices on the high side. I seen a lot of people who can't afford the newest cameras going back a generation or two when buying a camera. If I were to go that route I would go the DSLR route and not the MILC route, for they have more of a proven track record when it comes to Full Frame. Sony is basically the only that has addressed the hiccups and complaints on the FF MILC cameras. I think mirrorless full frame cameras are the future, but they are in the baby stage where DLSR cameras are proven and will still be around for a long long time (my opinion).

 

[Fishrrman]

I wouldn't buy a 5DmIV right now.
(And I just bought a 77d last year because I wanted a "DSLR" because I'd never owned one before.)

The EOS R has the same sensor as the 5dmIV, and may actually prove to be a better camera for considerably less money. We won't know until full tests of production models have been conducted.

Putting money into EF lenses now... when "the writing is on the wall" that "the end of mirror-based DSLR's" might be coming down the pike (ok, it will take a few years, but it's comin') -- might not be a wise decision when viewed in hindsight five years from today.

I believe the "transition period" from mirrored to mirrorless may happen much faster than anyone would predict right now.

I could be wrong.
But that's my prediction and I'm stickin' to it!

 

[anewman143]

I wouldn't buy a 5DmIV right now.
(And I just bought a 77d last year because I wanted a "DSLR" because I'd never owned one before.)

The EOS R has the same sensor as the 5dmIV, and may actually prove to be a better camera for considerably less money. We won't know until full tests of production models have been conducted.

Putting money into EF lenses now... when "the writing is on the wall" that "the end of mirror-based DSLR's" might be coming down the pike (ok, it will take a few years, but it's comin') -- might not be a wise decision when viewed in hindsight five years from today.

I believe the "transition period" from mirrored to mirrorless may happen much faster than anyone would predict right now.

I could be wrong.
But that's my prediction and I'm stickin' to it!

Reasonable conclusion - I'm well invested in "L" lenses, so the real question (as you pose) is should I just read the writing on the wall and go "R" with an adapter for my existing lenses or not...for now, will just stick with my 5d Mk III and enjoy

 

[OreoCookie]

Nope, you should not expect any extraordinary price drops. Canon will not make them any cheaper, once they decide to phase out dslrs in favor of their mirrorless camera, I expect that they will keep on selling the high-end bodies the longest — for full price.

If you really need a new camera, Canon's new mirrorless might be worth a look. But on the other hand, if you can wait, I'd see if Canon releases a model with a higher-resolution sensor akin to the Nikon Z7.

 

[anewman143]

Nope, you should not expect any extraordinary price drops. Canon will not make them any cheaper, once they decide to phase out dslrs in favor of their mirrorless camera, I expect that they will keep on selling the high-end bodies the longest — for full price.

If you really need a new camera, Canon's new mirrorless might be worth a look. But on the other hand, if you can wait, I'd see if Canon releases a model with a higher-resolution sensor akin to the Nikon Z7.

Thanks - I tend to agree as well. And I do NOT need a new camera, so will just stick with what I have until at least version 2 of EOS R...let somebody else work out the kinks...

 

[OreoCookie]

Thanks - I tend to agree as well. And I do NOT need a new camera, so will just stick with what I have until at least version 2 of EOS R...let somebody else work out the kinks...

I think this is quite a sensible approach. And IMHO these new cameras, especially once Canon releases high-res sensor models, will need new lenses in the long run anyway, so it'd be better to wait until their lens line-up is more fully fleshed out, too. It'd be nice if Canon released some ~$600 standard focal length primes (35 mm, 50 mm and so forth) just like Nikon did. Those are less sexy, but IMHO probably a better fit for a mirrorless camera for most applications.

 

[cbautis2]

IMO this EOS R made the 5D Mark IV obsolete especially when the new firmware which fix all of EOS R current quirks comes. If I had known a few months ago that Canon will release something like this, I wouldn't have purchased my 5D Mark IV back then

 

[OreoCookie]

IMO this EOS R made the 5D Mark IV obsolete especially when the new firmware which fix all of EOS R current quirks comes. If I had known a few months ago that Canon will release something like this, I wouldn't have purchased my 5D Mark IV back then

Canon's and Nikon's dslrs will have a much more powerful AF system than their mirrorless siblings, something that will only be fixed with future generations.

The main advantage of the EOS R at this point is that it is cheaper, and if all you care about is image quality, it is a great buy.