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Ballis

macrumors 6502a
May 27, 2008
961
915
Oslo, Norway
crossing my fingers. I need a laptop when going on vacation to the states next week, and id rather it be a new MBA than anything else.
 

hcho3

macrumors 68030
May 13, 2010
2,783
0
If apple somehow releases the GM version of Lion before the weekend, then I will believe that MBA will come out on July 6th. Apple usually waits for 2-3 beta versions and then release GM version. And then, they wait 2-3 weeks to release the lion to the public. My guess is MBA will be released Mid-late July.
 

nebulos

macrumors 6502a
Aug 27, 2010
555
0
these rumors are like promises from an alcoholic husband. i want to believe them, but i just can't, not anymore.

... unless, ... unless, you really mean it this time?

OH, I KNEW YOU WOULDN'T LET ME DOWN!!! I LOVE YOU, BABY!!!
 

krimp

macrumors newbie
Jun 16, 2011
16
0
Thailand
Lets hope it will happen soon.

Spoke to apple online store today about ordering a mac air 13" asked what happens if i order now (del expected in 2 weeks in Thailand) and the new model comes out while im waiting. I was told that it is not likely until at least after the end of July. And i would expect that they would say that as they don't want to lose sales, i made mention of all the strong rumors and she scoffed at that...
 

tbobmccoy

macrumors 6502a
Jul 24, 2007
969
219
Austin, TX
Spoke to apple online store today about ordering a mac air 13" asked what happens if i order now (del expected in 2 weeks in Thailand) and the new model comes out while im waiting. I was told that it is not likely until at least after the end of July. And i would expect that they would say that as they don't want to lose sales, i made mention of all the strong rumors and she scoffed at that...

Yeah, the Apple Online people aren't allowed to say anything, even if they know something, so this information isn't good at all. My sister in law works for the Online Store support and hates it when people try to talk about rumors. Just leave this this dead horse on the ground...

With that said, mid-July is the most logical point. I'm hoping that after the weekend of the 4th, we'll have a mad rush to GM Lion and maybe we can get lucky with an Air release of July 12th.
 

BeyondtheTech

macrumors 68020
Jun 20, 2007
2,147
715
Probably everyone to the left of the far right hates Rush Limbaugh, but he seems to think that OS X Lion will be released on the 6th or 5th. If that's the case, there's a good chance the new Airs will be released at the same time.

I'm banking on the 6th, since July 5 is right after the holidays and there could be shipping issues.

http://macdailynews.com/2011/06/30/rush-limbaugh-apples-os-x-lion-is-fabulous-perfecto

I’m using it and I love it. I’m using a beta of the new Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, the new operating system. It’s fabulous, Snerdley. The things they’ve done in the mail app are just fabulous. I tell you what they’ve done. They’ve brought so much of the mobile operating system from the iPhone and the iPad over to the computer, it’s… (interruption) Oh, no, I have a developer release. I’m an official registered developer out there. I’m one of the testers here. Everything aboveboard. The latest is it’s gonna release via the Mac App Store, not DVD. No DVD release. (interruption) Well, it’s four gigabytes. It’s gonna depend on what your connection speed is, but July 6th, I think, it’s out. Did I see July 5th or 6th at noon? It’s fabulous. (interruption) Oh, yeah, everything integrates. It’s perfecto. Look, I don’t want to spend time talking about it now; it’s something you have to see. But I’m just telling you I like it. It’s a significant increase.
 

jlblodgett

macrumors 6502a
Apr 18, 2008
567
0
Doesn't the OS need to go through the Gold Master stage before it is publicly released for resale?
 

Apple Expert

macrumors 65816
Jan 31, 2010
1,337
0
Doesn't the OS need to go through the Gold Master stage before it is publicly released for resale?

Gold Master is meant for print distribution. If Lion was being sold as physical media, then it would be Gold Master. Apple can sell it at any time and release delta updates as needed. Final Cut didn't go gold master prior to released. It just popped up on the App Store.
 

jlblodgett

macrumors 6502a
Apr 18, 2008
567
0
Gold Master is meant for print distribution. If Lion was being sold as physical media, then it would be Gold Master. Apple can sell it at any time and release delta updates as needed. Final Cut didn't go gold master prior to released. It just popped up on the App Store.


Interesting. Did not know that.


Edit --- were there Beta's of Final Cut?
 

42streetsdown

macrumors 6502a
Feb 12, 2011
655
3
Gallifrey, 5124
If apple somehow releases the GM version of Lion before the weekend, then I will believe that MBA will come out on July 6th. Apple usually waits for 2-3 beta versions and then release GM version. And then, they wait 2-3 weeks to release the lion to the public. My guess is MBA will be released Mid-late July.

I feel like we'll be seeing things work differently from the past releases of OS X.

I kinda feel like lion is a bit farther off than next week though. If the Airs are released concurrently then I hope not, but if Airs ship next week then I couldn't care less about Lion's arrival.
 

Cosmo Kramer

macrumors member
Jul 1, 2011
41
0
US
I hope so, I'm getting my first mac soon but waiting to see what the new air has to offer before I bite the bullet
 

Duke15

macrumors 6502
May 18, 2011
332
0
Canada
Agreed, and figures i just got sent away on work for a month, looks like ill have to wait anyways
 

smchan

macrumors member
Jul 22, 2008
96
1
Gold Master is meant for print distribution. If Lion was being sold as physical media, then it would be Gold Master.

While GM was classically used to describe the entity used to manufacture physical media, GM is now used to describe a project milestone in addition to the final build for a given release. A well defined software project will have GA (general availability) criteria like no severity 1 bugs or 48 hours of stress testing without failure. That criteria is applied against 1 or more RC (release candidates) and - when the criteria is met and management signs off on the quality certification - the final RC is said to become the "GM for GA". If Apple develops software like most companies - and I suspect they do - functional coding likely wrapped up weeks or months ago on Lion with the more recent periods being focused on squashing bugs and system-level testing.

I very seriously doubt Apple would post a software release - especially an operating system - without carefully vetting the quality of the same. So whether by name or not, Lion has or will go thru the "golden master" phase of software development.

Ever bought a really crappy app from the App Store? You know... one that crashes alot or is very buggy? Those were likely written by developers who were writing functional code one day and released the next. Or they just have incompetent testers.

Sam
 

tbobmccoy

macrumors 6502a
Jul 24, 2007
969
219
Austin, TX
While GM was classically used to describe the entity used to manufacture physical media, GM is now used to describe a project milestone in addition to the final build for a given release. A well defined software project will have GA (general availability) criteria like no severity 1 bugs or 48 hours of stress testing without failure. That criteria is applied against 1 or more RC (release candidates) and - when the criteria is met and management signs off on the quality certification - the final RC is said to become the "GM for GA". If Apple develops software like most companies - and I suspect they do - functional coding likely wrapped up weeks or months ago on Lion with the more recent periods being focused on squashing bugs and system-level testing.

I very seriously doubt Apple would post a software release - especially an operating system - without carefully vetting the quality of the same. So whether by name or not, Lion has or will go thru the "golden master" phase of software development.

Ever bought a really crappy app from the App Store? You know... one that crashes alot or is very buggy? Those were likely written by developers who were writing functional code one day and released the next. Or they just have incompetent testers.

Sam

+1. Apple doesn't ever certify software "GM for GA" though, but I think this is their version of "GM for GA", especially that C2D MBAs are starting to run out. I predict this week or next now that Lion is practically finished. Hoping for this week, expecting next week.
 
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