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chad.petree

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I want to charge my macbook pro 14" on the go with the same charger I use for my iphone, an anker 65w nano II, it has 2w less than apple's charger 67w charger https://de.anker.com/products/a2663 , in my head the worst thing that could happen is that the macbook would keep using battery even though the charger would be plugged in, but I just wanted to make sure it would be fine before I do it. What do you think?
 

clarencek

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I’ve charged my MacBook Pro 14 with a 35W charger. Just depends how long you want to wait.
And under high load it will drain battery if it doesn’t get enough juice from the charger.
 
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BigMcGuire

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My wife and I have used a similar Anker charger to charge our 13' MBPs and now our 14' MBP and my 16' MBP. No, it won't damage your laptop to use that. And yes, during high usage periods you MIGHT drain a little battery but I've found that even during gaming, Apple's 61W chargers keep my 16' MBP charged.

And yes, I too have used 20W, 35W chargers on my 16' MBP (M1 Max) - most of the time for most of what I do (during non-work hours), I'm lucky to see more than 12w of usage according to apps I use. Writing this post with 12 tabs opened and a handful of apps - CoconutBattery says I'm sipping 3.52w.
 

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I want to charge my macbook pro 14" on the go with the same charger I use for my iphone, an anker 65w nano II, it has 2w less than apple's charger 67w charger https://de.anker.com/products/a2663 , in my head the worst thing that could happen is that the macbook would keep using battery even though the charger would be plugged in, but I just wanted to make sure it would be fine before I do it. What do you think?

Im curious about this too…if you use this portable charger with the 14”, will it damage the mbp?
100% will not damage the laptop.

Next to my sofa I have a 65w Anker charger that I use with the MagSafe cable, and it charges my 14" MBP just perfectly. I also have an Anker 100w charger in my bag along with another MagSafe cable and that works just fine as well. The 96w Apple brick that the laptop came with it sitting at the office -- I use it to charge my iPads and my laptop if I need to when I take them to work. It's larger than either of the Anker ones, so I haven't been carrying it around.

With the 65w charger, I've seen the MBP charge with up to 58w (according to Coconut Battery). With the 100w charger, I've seen it draw up to 79w. Not a controlled scientific test, BTW, since battery state of charge before plugging in wasn't equal, etc. Just observational.

If you're charging with a less than 35w charger, it's possible that whatever you're doing on the laptop could consume more power than is going in (for example, you're pegging the CPU and GPU at 100% sustained and have the screen brightness up high), so it won't charge or will continue to deplete the battery until you're finished or you put the laptop to sleep. That's the worst that can happen. But over 45w and you're probably going to be just fine. The more watts your charger can put out, the faster your laptop will charge. But the laptop will not draw more power than it can handle.

I've charged my previous laptop with a 20w iPad Pro charger. It took hours sitting closed, but it won't damage anything.
 

1rottenapple

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I've tickle charge my old 2019 16in with 18 watts adapter. It works albeit its slow. Right now I'm using a 63w three port charger as my main charger next to my bed. I don't even use the MagSafe cable.
 

pshufd

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I've used an old 10 watt iPad charger on my 2021 MBP along with an Anker 40 watt 2-port charger. For charging the MacBook Pro and my iPhone as the charger is USB-C. I could just charge overnight in the hotel and use it on battery during the day.
 
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1rottenapple

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I've used an old 10 watt iPad charger on my 2021 MBP along with an Anker 40 watt 2-port charger. For charging the MacBook Pro and my iPhone as the charger is USB-C. I could just charge overnight in the hotel and use it on battery during the day.
Yah as long as your not running processor intensive workflow one can get away with low wattage chargers.
 

pshufd

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Yah as long as your not running processor intensive workflow one can get away with low wattage chargers.

The 2021 MacBook Pros are overkill for my needs in terms of CPU and GPU but the only options for more RAM, displays and ports. And they have a lot of other goodies too.
 

TinyMito

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I want to charge my macbook pro 14" on the go with the same charger I use for my iphone, an anker 65w nano II, it has 2w less than apple's charger 67w charger https://de.anker.com/products/a2663 , in my head the worst thing that could happen is that the macbook would keep using battery even though the charger would be plugged in, but I just wanted to make sure it would be fine before I do it. What do you think?

Im curious about this too…if you use this portable charger with the 14”, will it damage the mbp?

No, it will not damage anything with known good brand USB-C charger. This is no longer like back in the day with PC laptop barrel power bricks.

USB-C charger self regulate the power delivery—it will adapt to any devices. The beauty of USB-C Power Delivery technology.
 

doboy

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I charge my M1 14" w/ Apple 20W charger :) Of course it's slower but I keep it plugged in so not an issue for me.
 

chad.petree

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100% will not damage the laptop.

Next to my sofa I have a 65w Anker charger that I use with the MagSafe cable, and it charges my 14" MBP just perfectly. I also have an Anker 100w charger in my bag along with another MagSafe cable and that works just fine as well. The 96w Apple brick that the laptop came with it sitting at the office -- I use it to charge my iPads and my laptop if I need to when I take them to work. It's larger than either of the Anker ones, so I haven't been carrying it around.

With the 65w charger, I've seen the MBP charge with up to 58w (according to Coconut Battery). With the 100w charger, I've seen it draw up to 79w. Not a controlled scientific test, BTW, since battery state of charge before plugging in wasn't equal, etc. Just observational.

If you're charging with a less than 35w charger, it's possible that whatever you're doing on the laptop could consume more power than is going in (for example, you're pegging the CPU and GPU at 100% sustained and have the screen brightness up high), so it won't charge or will continue to deplete the battery until you're finished or you put the laptop to sleep. That's the worst that can happen. But over 45w and you're probably going to be just fine. The more watts your charger can put out, the faster your laptop will charge. But the laptop will not draw more power than it can handle.

I've charged my previous laptop with a 20w iPad Pro charger. It took hours sitting closed, but it won't damage anything.
Thank you for your detailed post, I feel way more relaxed after reading it
 

chad.petree

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The 2021 MacBook Pros are overkill for my needs in terms of CPU and GPU but the only options for more RAM, displays and ports. And they have a lot of other goodies too.
The only reason I went for the pro instead of the air is pro motion 😳
 
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David1986H

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I want to bring this topic back as I’m thinking about getting a 67watt apple charger or more likely a anker charger around the 65watts.

I currently have the M1 Pro 16" and I’m most likely going to get the M2 Max 16" in spring. I don’t max out the cpu or gpu and 80% of the time I’m only using around 30watts to browse youtube, twitch, while checking emails all at the same time.

Knowing that the M2 Max will most likely use more power to do the same task even compared to the M1 Max I’m guessing it may use 40-50watts at most. I’m hoping that a 65watt power adapter would be enough for the most part.
 

BeatCrazy

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I want to bring this topic back as I’m thinking about getting a 67watt apple charger or more likely a anker charger around the 65watts.

I currently have the M1 Pro 16" and I’m most likely going to get the M2 Max 16" in spring. I don’t max out the cpu or gpu and 80% of the time I’m only using around 30watts to browse youtube, twitch, while checking emails all at the same time.

Knowing that the M2 Max will most likely use more power to do the same task even compared to the M1 Max I’m guessing it may use 40-50watts at most. I’m hoping that a 65watt power adapter would be enough for the most part.
Depending on where you live, NFM has the 140w Apple charger on clearance for $49.97 w/free shipping.

^^ I got one last week, and also a spare MagSafe 3 cable for $19.97
 

David1986H

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Depending on where you live, NFM has the 140w Apple charger on clearance for $49.97 w/free shipping.

^^ I got one last week, and also a spare MagSafe 3 cable for $19.97
I already have the 140w adapter that came with 16” mbp.

I’m looking for a slower charger to prevent heat and make the battery last longer as Iv already lost 11% of the batteries capacity in 12 months
 

BeatCrazy

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I already have the 140w adapter that came with 16” mbp.

I’m looking for a slower charger to prevent heat and make the battery last longer as Iv already lost 11% of the batteries capacity in 12 months
The battery in modern MacBooks is smart enough to not draw too much power/generate heat in a way the accelerates battery degradation.

In other words, a weaker charger is not the answer to prevent battery capacity loss. Using the MacBook, and/or exposing it to heat (like leaving in your car) is what causes wear.
 

pshufd

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I want to bring this topic back as I’m thinking about getting a 67watt apple charger or more likely a anker charger around the 65watts.

I currently have the M1 Pro 16" and I’m most likely going to get the M2 Max 16" in spring. I don’t max out the cpu or gpu and 80% of the time I’m only using around 30watts to browse youtube, twitch, while checking emails all at the same time.

Knowing that the M2 Max will most likely use more power to do the same task even compared to the M1 Max I’m guessing it may use 40-50watts at most. I’m hoping that a 65watt power adapter would be enough for the most part.

I bought a power meter to see how much power my gear uses and the M1 Pro MacBook Pro 16 uses ridiculously little power. I'm using more than 20 Watts at load for my workflow (not including video editing which I usually do on my Studio). So my battery goes down when I'm using a 20 watt brick. But it charges slowly when I'm using a borrowed 30 watt brick. So it is viable to bring the 20 watt brick on a trip as I can charge to 100% overnight and the combination of 20 watts + battery will last 12 hours easily.

65 Watts is a lot on these machines unless you're using a lot more CPU/GPU than I'm using and you're running constantly.
 

David1986H

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I bought a power meter to see how much power my gear uses and the M1 Pro MacBook Pro 16 uses ridiculously little power. I'm using more than 20 Watts at load for my workflow (not including video editing which I usually do on my Studio). So my battery goes down when I'm using a 20 watt brick. But it charges slowly when I'm using a borrowed 30 watt brick. So it is viable to bring the 20 watt brick on a trip as I can charge to 100% overnight and the combination of 20 watts + battery will last 12 hours easily.

65 Watts is a lot on these machines unless you're using a lot more CPU/GPU than I'm using and you're running constantly.
For the past 24h Iv been using a 18w charger that came with my old iPhone 11 Pro and the battery is barely going up or down with 5 videos/live streams going at the same time. It’s probably not a good idea to run the charger at full capacity as it does feel quite warm.

I have ordered the Anker 65w adapter Here which will be perfect for the M1 Pro in my use cases.

Let’s just hope that the new M2 Max 16" is ok on the 65w in a few months.
 
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pshufd

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For the past 24h Iv been using a 18w charger that came with my old iPhone 11 Pro and the battery is barely going up or down with 5 videos/live streams going at the same time. It’s probably not a good idea to run the charger at full capacity as it does feel quite warm.

I have ordered the Anker 65w adapter Here which will be perfect for the M1 Pro in my use cases.

Let’s just hope that the new M2 Max 16" is ok on the 65w in a few months.

I've read that the M2 is more efficient due to the efficiency cores but that also means that you can get more work in a shorter period of time. I suspect that the same workload under M2 will use less power than on the M1.

65 Watts should be far more than what is needed by the vast majority of users on Apple Silicon on a sustained basis. I would like to get a brick with more than 20 Watts of output so that I am charging rather than draining but it just comes down to getting the best price per watt or the best number of additional ports. 65 Watts with 2xUSB-C and 1xUSB-A would be very nice to charge MacBook Pro, iPhone and my watch.
 
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pshufd

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I'm away from home and I took the 20 Watt charger with a MagSafe cable and it was fine. It charges slowly if I'm doing light stuff and discharges slowly if I'm doing something heavier. This may well be my new way of traveling, at least until I get a charging brick that has a bit more power.
 
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Berries-A-Million

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I already have the 140w adapter that came with 16” mbp.

I’m looking for a slower charger to prevent heat and make the battery last longer as Iv already lost 11% of the batteries capacity in 12 months

Consider this one. On sale for a bit right now and a great all in one charger. Limited-time deal: UGREEN 140W USB C Charger Nexode PPS PD 3.1 3-Port GaN Laptop Charger Compatible with MacBook Pro 16", MacBook Air, Dell XPS 15/13, iPad Pro, iPhone 14/13 Series, Galaxy, Steam Deck https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B129DM9T?ref_=cm_sw_r_apin_dp_J4S3GTMG79MBZC7T90BQ
 

Berries-A-Million

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I bought a power meter to see how much power my gear uses and the M1 Pro MacBook Pro 16 uses ridiculously little power. I'm using more than 20 Watts at load for my workflow (not including video editing which I usually do on my Studio). So my battery goes down when I'm using a 20 watt brick. But it charges slowly when I'm using a borrowed 30 watt brick. So it is viable to bring the 20 watt brick on a trip as I can charge to 100% overnight and the combination of 20 watts + battery will last 12 hours easily.

65 Watts is a lot on these machines unless you're using a lot more CPU/GPU than I'm using and you're running constantly.

I measured mine pull max 140w when pushing at its full limit with 100% gpu and cpu max. It’s difficult without stressing it with two apps.
 
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