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Tha Professor

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Let's be honest. Most of our day to day work happens in the browser and most of it is optimized for Chrome? How is Chromium going to benefit from the new SoC? Will Google develop a universal version? The iOS version is based on WebKit, so there is not really a benchmark yet, is it?
 

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Let's be honest. Most of our day to day work happens in the browser and most of it is optimized for Chrome? How is Chromium going to benefit from the new SoC? Will Google develop a universal version? The iOS version is based on WebKit, so there is not really a benchmark yet, is it?

I'm not quite sure who the "our" is you are referring to. Perhaps you misspelled "my"?
 

aednichols

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Chromium is an open-source project with what I would guess is a modern, clean codebase.

A few sufficiently motivated contributors could probably make it happen, cross-compiling is usually a lot of updating small, boring, niche items in the codebase and build toolchain.

Source: former iOS developer who worked on updating apps from 32 to 64 bits after the iPhone 5S came out
 

Tha Professor

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The pendulum swings. The last update to Safari has been very solid.
The pendulum swings slowly. Devs in my company basically refuse to fix iOS and Safari bugs. because we've told users to use Chrome the usage of other browsers stay low : a self fulfilling prophecy... we are a small B2B app... and those are the type that users spend so much time in, making Chrome default for other tasks as well...
 
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Chromium is an open-source project with what I would guess is a modern, clean codebase.

A few sufficiently motivated contributors could probably make it happen, cross-compiling is usually a lot of updating small, boring, niche items in the codebase and build toolchain.

Source: former iOS developer who worked on updating apps from 32 to 64 bits after the iPhone 5S came out

Voila:
 
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Tha Professor

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I'm not quite sure who the "our" is you are referring to. Perhaps you misspelled "my"?
I know "we" are not everyone, but it is increasingly large segment of people and corporate roles. Anyone working with G-Suite for documents. Online marketing platforms, BI tools and sales tools are all moving to cloud based apps. these are all used by professionals, who need speed and reliability just as any other pro out there.
 
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ww1971

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Let's be honest. Most of our day to day work happens in the browser and most of it is optimized for Chrome? How is Chromium going to benefit from the new SoC? Will Google develop a universal version? The iOS version is based on WebKit, so there is not really a benchmark yet, is it?

maybe the intel version of google chrome could work under Rosetta 2?
 

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I know "we" are not everyone, but it is increasingly large segment of people and corporate roles. Anyone working with G-Suite for documents. Online marketing platforms, BI tools and sales tools are all moving to cloud based apps. these are all used by professionals, who need speed and reliability just as any other pro out there.
Citation needed. Chrome and G-Suite are not required for the 'cloud'. My company is quite successful using the 'cloud' sans Google. I expect many others are as well.
 

Apollo33

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Check this Chromium bug: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1142017
Google is feverishly working to get a Apple-Silicon-native Chrome out for version 87.
Widevine DRM (like Netflix, etc), however, will still have to run under Rosetta until that gets sorted. Still, the rest of the browser will be 100% native very soon.
That bug's regarding the question of a Universal binary which bumps the size by an extra 77%

They already indicate that they have an arm64 version for Mac.
The issue is more with the edge cases of "what happens if someone with ARM downloads the x86-64 version instead" (which means they'd be running Chrome under Rosetta) and "should we offer an x86-64 only build to allow Intel Macs to save on bandwidth and storage?"

I'd already noticed the size bump of Xcode 12 compared to Xcode 11.
I guess larger app sizes will just help Apple upsell larger storage capacities.

Flutter, as far as I know, is based off of Chrome's rendering engine... It has run smoothly at 60fps on iOS devices for a long time. Surely Chrome will run even better on the new M1 chip.
 

taugust04

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I'm curious on this topic as well, considering I have a 13" MacBook Air on it's way. So far, the only major browser with native Apple Silicon support is Firefox Nightly - it's packages as an Universal app. Firefox Dev and Beta releases are still Intel only. I downloaded and looked at Google Chrome Canary and Microsoft Edge Canary, both version 88, and they are also still Intel only.

I'm quite surprised that neither Microsoft or Google wouldn't have at least beta versions of their browsers available for day 1. I'm sure they have access to the Developer Kit mini's with the A12z chips that they could have compiled and tested against. Big Sur has been stable enough for the last two months or so where they could have started development and be far enough along where they could at least have the dev or beta versions available.
 

Apollo33

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I'm curious on this topic as well, considering I have a 13" MacBook Air on it's way. So far, the only major browser with native Apple Silicon support is Firefox Nightly - it's packages as an Universal app. Firefox Dev and Beta releases are still Intel only. I downloaded and looked at Google Chrome Canary and Microsoft Edge Canary, both version 88, and they are also still Intel only.

I'm quite surprised that neither Microsoft or Google wouldn't have at least beta versions of their browsers available for day 1. I'm sure they have access to the Developer Kit mini's with the A12z chips that they could have compiled and tested against. Big Sur has been stable enough for the last two months or so where they could have started development and be far enough along where they could at least have the dev or beta versions available.
Chrome (and, by extension, Edge Chromium) have worked flawlessly on Big Sur throughout the betas.

Google's official ARM builds should be available today: https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/17/21572418/google-chrome-run-natively-on-apples-arm-macs-m1
 
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