I bought two Mac Pro 09s nearly two years ago on eBay, so every time I browse there I get an update on the going price. Amazingly, they seem to have gone up in value when one might reasonably have expected the opposite. Admittedly, I have not been aggressively researching. Has anyone else perceived such a trend?
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"Classic" Mac Pro values up?
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Here in Ireland they've dropped quite a bit. Even when it comes to refurbished ones over in the UK from Scrumpymacs.
Mac of All Trades price has been pretty stable for over a year: +/- $100 for Quad 2.66 4,1.
I think prices have slipped a little since two years ago, when I bought my 4,1.
I think prices have slipped a little since two years ago, when I bought my 4,1.
Maybe I just found some sweet deals back then, or they were in a slump.
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Thanks. That's what's expected, I guess. I must have bought low.
I'd reckon they've increased in Canada.
I've seen MP 1,1s base model for around $700 and the 4,1s going for more than 1,400.
It was only a year ago 4,1s were going for around 900. Guess it just depends, at the moment there are very few listed and many of them asking a fortune for the oMPs.
I've seen MP 1,1s base model for around $700 and the 4,1s going for more than 1,400.
It was only a year ago 4,1s were going for around 900. Guess it just depends, at the moment there are very few listed and many of them asking a fortune for the oMPs.
Refurb 1,1 and 3,1 here:
http://www.expercom.com/browse_by_category.html?CATEGORY_ID=348
Seeming to be holding their value.
Lou
http://www.expercom.com/browse_by_category.html?CATEGORY_ID=348
Seeming to be holding their value.
Lou
Maybe it is because the max speed of any computer kind of reached a ceiling the last few years. Geekbench +/- 14000-15000 is the limit (off course, you have some out of this world 12 core NewMacPro's with similar out of this world prices). So people choose now: old MacPro with everything IN the box at half price, or full price with lots of desk clutter.
But it is largely emotion that sets the price. A Mini offers more for less, and when you start shopping in the Windows camp, you get the same for maybe a third of the price.
MacPro 2009 2.66 quad vs Mac Mini 2.3 i7
GB: 8034 vs GB 11639 (45% faster)
Sata 2 vs Sata 3
Passmark 310 vs 456 (3D performance 47% better, more modern shaders)
USB2 vs USB3,TB
1066mhz ram vs 1600mhz
45nm vs 22nm (4 times as cold, low energy)
The MP might feel faster on boot cause the mini has a 5400rpm drive. If you make that raid 0 SSD, the mini has NewMacPro disk speeds of 1GB/s read/write.
But it is largely emotion that sets the price. A Mini offers more for less, and when you start shopping in the Windows camp, you get the same for maybe a third of the price.
MacPro 2009 2.66 quad vs Mac Mini 2.3 i7
GB: 8034 vs GB 11639 (45% faster)
Sata 2 vs Sata 3
Passmark 310 vs 456 (3D performance 47% better, more modern shaders)
USB2 vs USB3,TB
1066mhz ram vs 1600mhz
45nm vs 22nm (4 times as cold, low energy)
The MP might feel faster on boot cause the mini has a 5400rpm drive. If you make that raid 0 SSD, the mini has NewMacPro disk speeds of 1GB/s read/write.
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One of the points of the classic MP is not just the geekbench out of the box, its the opportunity to double it or greater by upgrading the CPUs to second hand Xeons pulled from servers, for not that great a cost. Add the GPU, add USB 3, add a PCIE SSD boot drive, and wham, that's a snappy machine.
Yeah you can get a 4,1 2.26GHz x8 or 2.66GHz x4 for $1,000.
With 2.66GHz 6-cores for $100, 2.93GHz X5670s for $225, 3.2GHz 4-cores (for 8-cores) for $150 and used server RAM for $5/GB a $2,000 investment in old hardware can give you a highly competent system.
Bought my 4,1 last September from OWC for $879. It was a quad 2.66 (have since done the 5,1 flash and upgraded the CPU to 6-core 3.33). It came with a 1TB WD Black HDD, 6GB RAM and a keyboard and mouse. It was listed as "Very Good" condition. Ground shipping was free. Have been very happy with it.
OWC doesn't have any MPs for sale at the time of this posting to compare to, but Mac of All Trades currently has that same model (with similar but not identical specs) in "Good" condition for $799. Check out the attached screen shot.
BUT, they charge $49 extra for a keyboard and mouse. Also Ground shipping from them costs about $46 to my location. Both of these additional costs make the total cost about $894.
Also my guess is that if the condition were better than "Good", the price would go up accordingly (I think OWC does that as well IIRC).
Point being, it seems that the 4,1 seems to be holding in that same general price range for now.
OWC doesn't have any MPs for sale at the time of this posting to compare to, but Mac of All Trades currently has that same model (with similar but not identical specs) in "Good" condition for $799. Check out the attached screen shot.
BUT, they charge $49 extra for a keyboard and mouse. Also Ground shipping from them costs about $46 to my location. Both of these additional costs make the total cost about $894.
Also my guess is that if the condition were better than "Good", the price would go up accordingly (I think OWC does that as well IIRC).
Point being, it seems that the 4,1 seems to be holding in that same general price range for now.
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I hadn't heard of expercom until your post. Have you ordered from them before? Are they a reliable company? Just curious.
Okay thanks, good to know. I have found the same to be true with Mac of all Trades, though I've only done business with them once about 10 years ago.
2nd thumbs up for Macofalltrades, I just had a good experience getting a 2 x 2.26 ghz from them a month ago. Very clean machine, and while the web price went up btw a phone conversation and my order, they quickly matched the verbal offer with a quick refund.
