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mohnumber7

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Hi,

I've mac pro 5.1 with dual CPU x5690, 46gb DDR3, original HD5870, HiSierra last version installed in WD black original disk, and other WD black installed win10 with unetbootin, I boot it when I want to use Win10 for games, I've bought and SSD samsung 860 to use for win10, and un nvme 970 evo plus for my system, I tried clone my win10 to ssd samsung 860 with carbon clone copy, but it don't boot, not detected when booting with Alt button on start, before I formatted my 860ssd in NTFS, can anyone give me the solution to get windows 10 cloned and booted at the place of the older wd black, after that I want to clone my systeme to the nvme, thanks
 

h9826790

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You cannot clone Windows by using CCC. It's not supported.

For Windows, you need WinClone. Or simply boot to Linux to do that (e.g. Clonezilla)
 

mohnumber7

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but can I do a new installation with unetbootin directly from win10 iso file to the samsung 860 SSD? can it works?
 

mohnumber7

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Good, I think it's the best solution, will do it this night, but for cloning the system High Sierra to my nvme 970 evo plus, I think, I must first update the firmware of the nvme itself, after that, update the firmware of my mac pro, and finally, I can do my copy via carbon copy, and it should works! is it the correct way?

I need another information, in which forma must I format the nvme? I'm now in HiSierra, and I want move after installing a vega 64 to mojave in few days, in which format?
 
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h9826790

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I must first update the firmware of the nvme itself
Depends on the firmware version of your Evo PLUS now.

after that, update the firmware of my mac pro
no need to wait, you can do this now

in which forma must I format the nvme? I'm now in HiSierra, and I want move after installing a vega 64 to mojave in few days, in which format?
APFS or HFS+, HFS+ may be easier and more reliable for cloning, the Mojave installer will convert that to APFS anyway.
 

mohnumber7

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Ok, so first I need to format the nvme into HFS+, after that update firmware of mac pro if needed and nvme itself, finally make copy via carbon copy, correct?
 

mohnumber7

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I tried to install win10 on the samsung 860 ssd disk which is on the burner sata, using the unetbootin software, I have already done that with a normal hard disk and I was able to install win10, boot on it, and do what I wanted, really good, but this ssd refuses to let me install win10, I tried the same way with my old drive and nothing, I formatted as NTFS, nothing, I left the tables in MBR, nothing, in GPT nothing, I simply removed all the partitions to leave it blank and nothing, I still have the following error: 0x803000002, how to install this damn windows 10 on this ssd, yet it works fine with a normal hard drive !! I'm lost !!

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mohnumber7

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I gees this is Boot Camp, I want to install directly win10 to a new hall disk, not via bootcamp already installed with macos, like I've done with my WW black, a pure installation.
 

h9826790

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I gees this is Boot Camp, I want to install directly win10 to a new hall disk, not via bootcamp already installed with macos, like I've done with my WW black, a pure installation.
Please read that post. It's about how to install Windows WITHOUT bootcamp.

Those steps including how to download and install the Windows bootcamp driver package. If you don't like that, you can skip all of those steps.

But it's about how to install Windows natively (and correctly) on a cMP without jeopardise the safety of the logicboard.
 

mohnumber7

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I've not problem installing win10 in a normal drive like WD black, I've problem when I try to install win10 in a samsung 860 SSD.
 

mohnumber7

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YES, it's finally installed, I've put out all others drive exept the ssd 860 samsung, next step, install HighSierra in nvme samsung, I think I must install Mojave to get this nvme working, update firmware to 144.0.0.0.0, what do you think? can get it working without mojave and updating Firmware? thanks
 

h9826790

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YES, it's finally installed, I've put out all others drive exept the ssd 860 samsung, next step, install HighSierra in nvme samsung, I think I must install Mojave to get this nvme working, update firmware to 144.0.0.0.0, what do you think? can get it working without mojave and updating Firmware? thanks
No need to install Mojave, run launch the Mojave installer to trigger the 144.0.0.0.0 firmware update.
 
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