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Teddy Leung

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Hi All,

I am using Mac Pro 2010, 3.46Ghz X 2 CPU, 48GB RAM, Samsung 951 PCIe SSD, AMD 7950 Mac Edition Now.

I want to upgrade my GPU for Video Editing, Which one is better for this old machine ?

RX 580 , VEGA 56 , GTX 1070 , GTX 1080 which one better performance in pricing ?

thanks all.
 

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h9826790

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For FCPX, 10.13.2, RX580.

Nvidia unable to perform in FCPX due to lack of software optimisation from Apple.

Vega has fan issue in 10.13.2, and no sign of any fix from Apple at this moment.
 
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Teddy Leung

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should i wait apple fix the problem for Vega bug fix ?

or RX 580 the power support from Build in Power Supply better than Vega ?

and Which RX 580 suggest for me ?

thanks man !
 

h9826790

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should i wait apple fix the problem for Vega bug fix ?

or RX 580 the power support from Build in Power Supply better than Vega ?

and Which RX 580 suggest for me ?

thanks man !

RX580 should be better if purely consider power support in cMP. From member report, even the Vega56 can shutdown the Mac if running Furmark (only powered by the dual mini 6 pins).

Sapphire PULSE RX580 should has the best compatibility. However, only the "old" version can identify itself correctly (and apply the correct framebuffer) natively in MacOS. There is a new version come with different part number, which may also suffer from the 10.13.2 sleep issue. But it should be relatively easy to fix by hex edit (and flash) the VBIOS, and make the MacOS believe it's the old card, and treat it like the old card.
 

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RX580 should be better if purely consider power support in cMP. From member report, even the Vega56 can shutdown the Mac if running Furmark (only powered by the dual mini 6 pins).

Sapphire PULSE RX580 should has the best compatibility. However, only the "old" version can identify itself correctly (and apply the correct framebuffer) natively in MacOS. There is a new version come with different part number, which may also suffer from the 10.13.2 sleep issue. But it should be relatively easy to fix by hex edit (and flash) the VBIOS, and make the MacOS believe it's the old card, and treat it like the old card.

h9826790, was curious if you had experience with Premiere Pro? Would you recommend the 580 still or the 1080ti in High Sierra? I am in the same situation as the OP with the same system but use Premiere Pro.

Thank you
 

Teddy Leung

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RX580 should be better if purely consider power support in cMP. From member report, even the Vega56 can shutdown the Mac if running Furmark (only powered by the dual mini 6 pins).

Sapphire PULSE RX580 should has the best compatibility. However, only the "old" version can identify itself correctly (and apply the correct framebuffer) natively in MacOS. There is a new version come with different part number, which may also suffer from the 10.13.2 sleep issue. But it should be relatively easy to fix by hex edit (and flash) the VBIOS, and make the MacOS believe it's the old card, and treat it like the old card.

Sapphire PULSE RX580 launched 2 version old and new one ? how to Identify old and new version ?

and Sapphire PULSE RX580 use 8pin power input ? i need prepare dual 6pin to 8pin power cable for RX 580 ?
[doublepost=1515253470][/doublepost]i live in hong kong, my place maybe can get this one " Sapphire PULSE RX580"

should it be fit for my cMP ? https://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=261500
 

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h9826790

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Sapphire PULSE RX580 launched 2 version old and new one ? how to Identify old and new version ?

and Sapphire PULSE RX580 use 8pin power input ? i need prepare dual 6pin to 8pin power cable for RX 580 ?
[doublepost=1515253470][/doublepost]i live in hong kong, my place maybe can get this one " Sapphire PULSE RX580"

should it be fit for my cMP ? https://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=261500

Hey my friend, I am also from Hong Kong!

Yes, this is the PULSE I was talking about (Sapphire PULSE RX580 8GB)

More than 2 versions indeed. The good old "two" with the Part# 113-4E3531U or 113-4E353BU. All other part numbers are the "new" one. But I am not sure if this number can be seen on the box (e.g. at the barcode label). You may ask the shop staff, most likely their computer can show the exact part number of their goods.

Yes, you need a dual 6pin -> 8pin to power this card properly.

I ran to Sham Shui Po about 2 months ago. The PULSE was available. And plenty of Nitro+.

Even I didn't own this card, but I am quite sure the VBIOS can easily be "fixed" (change the part number), and make MacOS recognise it properly. I believe the Nitro+ can also do that, but since the Nitro+ is a 2.2 slot card (effectively occupy 3 slots), and require more power. I still believe PULSE is a better choice for cMP.
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h9826790, was curious if you had experience with Premiere Pro? Would you recommend the 580 still or the 1080ti in High Sierra? I am in the same situation as the OP with the same system but use Premiere Pro.

Thank you

In fact, I am trying to switch to Premiere Pro, but only have very little experience so far. I am still working hard to get use to the new UI. So, I can't quite do the same thing yet as I can in FCPX, a bit hard to compare. So far, my feeling is that Premiere Pro is very smooth with my current setup (as per my signature). However, I also doubt if the 1080Ti can work better than RX580 in Premiere Pro (MacOS). My understanding is that the GPU is just there to provide OpenCL support (of course CUDA and METAL is also there, but may have more glitches than benefit. At the end, it's still the Mercury Engine, OpenCL is still the most reliable options so far). The GPU's hardware video engines are disabled in MacOS. So, the 1080Ti's real power can't be used.

But if you are pure Premiere Pro user, no FCPX, no other OpenCL apps. Then I will say better go for the Nvidia card (unless you often need to use recovery partition, then RX580 obviously is the better choice).

1) better power efficient
2) better raw power (future driver / software may able to release those power)
3) you can switch to Windows at anytime, then the 1080Ti's real power will be release instantaneously.

My own experience with the 1080Ti is very positive. Even the OS update is easier than I expect. As long as do it right, I don't even need any other GPU, Mac EFI, remote control, etc to help. Just update (via terminal), install new driver (with some text edit to make the installer work), and reboot.
 
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Teddy Leung

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But if you are pure Premiere Pro user, no FCPX, no other OpenCL apps. Then I will say better go for the Nvidia card (unless you often need to use recovery partition, then RX580 obviously is the better choice).

Agree ! that's why i am looking for RX Series.
[doublepost=1515257032][/doublepost]If i don't change any plist file and bios data, also work fine in Sapphire PULSE RX580 new or old version ?

Just system info show "RX xxx" only this problem ?
 

Teddy Leung

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Jun 12, 2015
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h9826790, was curious if you had experience with Premiere Pro? Would you recommend the 580 still or the 1080ti in High Sierra? I am in the same situation as the OP with the same system but use Premiere Pro.

Thank you

This video good can answer your problem.

 
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