Color Coding Labels

[kathryne_B]

I recently upgraded to 10.11.1 El Capitan OS, which broke my XtraFinder app, for color coding the numerous files and folders on my desktop. I can revert to using it again, but only if I disable the System Integrity Protection. I would rather find another app that does the same thing that I can use for the upgraded system. Would anyone be able to tell me where I can find another color coding app, for color coding not only the icon folder, but also the entire name on the label as well. I'd really appreciate any insight you can give me. Thank you. -K

 

[Rodan52]

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I recently upgraded to 10.11.1 El Capitan OS, which broke my XtraFinder app, for color coding the numerous files and folders on my desktop. I can revert to using it again, but only if I disable the System Integrity Protection. I would rather find another app that does the same thing that I can use for the upgraded system. Would anyone be able to tell me where I can find another color coding app, for color coding not only the icon folder, but also the entire name on the label as well. I'd really appreciate any insight you can give me. Thank you. -K

I doubt if there are any. It was well known and discussed that El Capitan would herald the System Itegrity Protection (SIP) control to prevent third party apps playing around with core services like altering folder appearance. Even back when custom icons were all the rage there was always a cautionary note attached.
I recently used Preview to change the color of a thumb drive icon. After a few uses the TD stopped mounting so after a few tries to get it to mount it did and I promptly erased an reformatted it back to default appearances and it's been fine since. Coincidence?

 

[kathryne_B]

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I doubt if there are any. It was well known and discussed that El Capitan would herald the System Itegrity Protection (SIP) control to prevent third party apps playing around with core services like altering folder appearance. Even back when custom icons were all the rage there was always a cautionary note attached.
I recently used Preview to change the color of a thumb drive icon. After a few uses the TD stopped mounting so after a few tries to get it to mount it did and I promptly erased an reformatted it back to default appearances and it's been fine since. Coincidence?

Thanx. Guess I'll have to partially disable the System Integrity Protection, so that I can get it to work, being that there is no other app out there, that Apple can provide. A real shame!

 

[MacGizmo]

There are numerous apps that do this, but they're all having the same issue with SIP. The only way to truly get what you want is to use a full Finder replacement app like Commander One or Pathfinder.

 

[kathryne_B]

There are numerous apps that do this, but they're all having the same issue with SIP. The only way to truly get what you want is to use a full Finder replacement app like Commander One or Pathfinder.

Are we talking about the same thing, in that I'm looking for an app that color codes the file and folder names on my desktop? I looked at them both and see nothing indicating about color coding. There are several websites for the Commander One. Perhaps I looked at the wrong one. Is there a link that you may pin up that leads me directly to what I'm looking for? I'd really appreciate it. Thank you. -KT

 

[MacGizmo]

PathFinder (Probably overkill for what you want - $40)
Commander One (Again, probably overkill - $30)

There is no "partially" disabling SIP. It's on or it's off. And I can tell you that the above two apps (ForkLift is another one) are way, way overkill for your needs. They basically are meant to completely replace the Finder. You really are better off running XtraFinder with SIP turned off like I do. You just need to be very careful about what you install. But that's always been the case, right?!!

 

[kathryne_B]

PathFinder (Probably overkill for what you want - $40)
Commander One (Again, probably overkill - $30)

There is no "partially" disabling SIP. It's on or it's off. And I can tell you that the above two apps (ForkLift is another one) are way, way overkill for your needs. They basically are meant to completely replace the Finder. You really are better off running XtraFinder with SIP turned off like I do. You just need to be very careful about what you install. But that's always been the case, right?!!

Yes, the three apps do sound like overkill and especially the overkill of my wallet. My question is, if they are overkill why are they created? I got the "partially" disabling SIP, from a website I found, here --->http://www.trankynam.com/xtrafinder/sip.html. Would you be so kind as to tell me if this is what I would do to turn the SIP off? It'd be appreciated. Thank you.

 

[MacGizmo]

My question is, if they are overkill why are they created? I got the "partially" disabling SIP, from a website I found, here --->http://www.trankynam.com/xtrafinder/sip.html. Would you be so kind as to tell me if this is what I would do to turn the SIP off? It'd be appreciated. Thank you.

They might be overkill for you and I, but other people may find them extremely useful and want even more features built-in.

Turning SIP off is easy, the link you found from XtraFinder is correct.

 

[kathryne_B]

They might be overkill for you and I, but other people may find them extremely useful and want even more features built-in.

Turning SIP off is easy, the link you found from XtraFinder is correct.

Turning the SIP may be easy for you, not me. I have two operating systems on my machine and I don't want to break either one of the systems in my computer. And I was only saying that those other apps were overkill, because you said they were overkill. I don't want to have spend a fortune on something that should be simple. Thanx.

 

[kathryne_B]

PathFinder (Probably overkill for what you want - $40)
Commander One (Again, probably overkill - $30)

There is no "partially" disabling SIP. It's on or it's off. And I can tell you that the above two apps (ForkLift is another one) are way, way overkill for your needs. They basically are meant to completely replace the Finder. You really are better off running XtraFinder with SIP turned off like I do. You just need to be very careful about what you install. But that's always been the case, right?!!

It sounds to me like you want to argue just to argue. And I quote from the Xtrafinder website for disabling the SIP:

How to partially disable System Integrity Protection
Refer this Apple's article .

Follow these steps:

1. Boot to Recovery OS by restarting your machine and holding down the Command and R keys at startup.
2. Launch Terminal from the Utilities menu.
3. Enter the following command: csrutil enable --without debug
Reboot your computer.

Looks like "paritially disable" to me!

 

[MacGizmo]

It sounds to me like you want to argue just to argue. And I quote from the Xtrafinder website for disabling the SIP:

How to partially disable System Integrity Protection
Refer this Apple's article .

Follow these steps:

1. Boot to Recovery OS by restarting your machine and holding down the Command and R keys at startup.
2. Launch Terminal from the Utilities menu.
3. Enter the following command: csrutil enable --without debug
Reboot your computer.

Looks like "paritially disable" to me!

I have no idea where you're getting the idea that I'm arguing. I was trying to help. I said those other two apps were overkill because they do so much more than what XtraFinder does, and they're fully-baked apps, not Finder add-ons. Your original post implied that the finder labels were really the only thing you wanted. I said the other two apps were overkill for you because they're expensive, and they do a LOT more than what you said you were looking for. That's not to say that they're not great for other people. XtraFinder is free, and a relatively simple little utility that runs in the background.

Turning on and off SIP is fairly easy, and it's not going to mess up your system (all it's doing is turning a feature on/off). All you have to do is type a few letters. If you print the instructions out before rebooting, it's even easier.

As far as your link, I'm not sure what you're point is. The scrutil command in the terminal will either enable or disable depending on what you type. There is no in-between or "partial" setting. The author of XtraFinder does not speak English as a first language, so I suspect he's just mis-typing or not understanding the full meaning of how he's saying it. By the way, he's specifically shown you how to ENABLE (not disable) SIP. Adding the debug command has nothing to do with SIP itself, and doesn't change the fact that SIP is either ENABLED or DISABLED.

I'm not trying to insult you are argue with you. But you clearly don't understand the technicalities of any of this, so perhaps you could/should take my word for it. Just a thought. And maybe don't look for a confrontation when there isn't one to be had. I was just trying to be helpful.

 

[KALLT]

As far as your link, I'm not sure what you're point is. The scrutil command in the terminal will either enable or disable depending on what you type. There is no in-between or "partial" setting. The author of XtraFinder does not speak English as a first language, so I suspect he's just mis-typing or not understanding the full meaning of how he's saying it. By the way, he's specifically shown you how to ENABLE (not disable) SIP. Adding the debug command has nothing to do with SIP itself, and doesn't change the fact that SIP is either ENABLED or DISABLED.

Sorry, but you are wrong here. SIP is a comprehensive security policy with options. What the system or csrutil says is irrelevant, it is possible to disable certain aspects of SIP (although it isn't documented). When you use csrutil without parameters, you are simply switching everything on or off. In fact, it may actually be true that Xtrafinder only needs permission to attach itself to Finder's runtime, which is likely covered by the debugging exception. This leaves everything else, including system folder write protections, kext signing, NVRAM protection and so forth in tact.

 

[kathryne_B]

I have no idea where you're getting the idea that I'm arguing. I was trying to help. I said those other two apps were overkill because they do so much more than what XtraFinder does, and they're fully-baked apps, not Finder add-ons. Your original post implied that the finder labels were really the only thing you wanted. I said the other two apps were overkill for you because they're expensive, and they do a LOT more than what you said you were looking for. That's not to say that they're not great for other people. XtraFinder is free, and a relatively simple little utility that runs in the background.

Turning on and off SIP is fairly easy, and it's not going to mess up your system (all it's doing is turning a feature on/off). All you have to do is type a few letters. If you print the instructions out before rebooting, it's even easier.

As far as your link, I'm not sure what you're point is. The scrutil command in the terminal will either enable or disable depending on what you type. There is no in-between or "partial" setting. The author of XtraFinder does not speak English as a first language, so I suspect he's just mis-typing or not understanding the full meaning of how he's saying it. By the way, he's specifically shown you how to ENABLE (not disable) SIP. Adding the debug command has nothing to do with SIP itself, and doesn't change the fact that SIP is either ENABLED or DISABLED.

I'm not trying to insult you are argue with you. But you clearly don't understand the technicalities of any of this, so perhaps you could/should take my word for it. Just a thought. And maybe don't look for a confrontation when there isn't one to be had. I was just trying to be helpful.

It's very rude to tell someone that they don't "understand," something. Comprehend is a better word and I understand just as much as the next guy. I've been working with Macintosh computers for 25 years. Thanx for your post. (I had no way of knowing if the author of Xtrafinder spoke English or not). Have a good day, Sir.

UPDATE:

It seems that I got the Xtrafinder to work, FINALLY! Perhaps, if someone (either the person responding to the post or whoever posted the info on Xtrafinder, informing people that "Return," has to be entered in order for the cmd to work and the cmd "csrutil disable," I could've "UNDERSTOOD," the instructions better! Thank you.

P.S. The instructions clearly say: "csrutil enable --without debug." Perhaps it's you who doesn't comprehend.

 

[kathryne_B]

Sorry, but you are wrong here. SIP is a comprehensive security policy with options. What the system or csrutil says is irrelevant, it is possible to disable certain aspects of SIP (although it isn't documented). When you use csrutil without parameters, you are simply switching everything on or off. In fact, it may actually be true that Xtrafinder only needs permission to attach itself to Finder's runtime, which is likely covered by the debugging exception. This leaves everything else, including system folder write protections, kext signing, NVRAM protection and so forth in tact.

Thank you for your post KALLT! Some people just pretend to know, I guess. Thanx again for your solid info!