Color Profiler for M1 Mac

[bunnspecial]

I'm still moving into my M1 MBP, and decided I would try processing some photos today.

I grabbed my trusty ColorMunki Smile and downloaded the software, only to find it's 32 bit(I skipped Catalina, so I'm just now getting hit hard with 32 bit issues). I can't make sense of what they say about whether or not their current software supports it, but it seems like the ColorMunki Smile is out, so it looks like I'm going to be shopping for a new profiler. I also saw them mentioning M1 issues with the old ones.

What do you all like these days?

 

[Apple fanboy]

I'm still moving into my M1 MBP, and decided I would try processing some photos today.

I grabbed my trusty ColorMunki Smile and downloaded the software, only to find it's 32 bit(I skipped Catalina, so I'm just now getting hit hard with 32 bit issues). I can't make sense of what they say about whether or not their current software supports it, but it seems like the ColorMunki Smile is out, so it looks like I'm going to be shopping for a new profiler. I also saw them mentioning M1 issues with the old ones.

What do you all like these days?

The Colormunki smile hasn’t been supported for a while! The software for the replacement product i1 Display studio isn’t finalised for the M1 chip yet. They are still working on it.

 

[bunnspecial]

Thanks, guess I hadn't paid attention since it's continued working fine in Mojave(I skipped Catalina).

I'll wait for them to get things working right on an M1 and then buy a new one.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Thanks, guess I hadn't paid attention since it's continued working fine in Mojave(I skipped Catalina).

I'll wait for them to get things working right on an M1 and then buy a new one.

I’ll let you know when.

 

[bunnspecial]

I’ll let you know when.

Thanks! Are you using an M1?

 

[Apple fanboy]

Thanks! Are you using an M1?

No. But the company I work for does the support for Xrite in Europe.

 

[Nütztjanix]

No. But the company I work for does the support for Xrite in Europe.

Ha! Now I know where to turn to if I ever encounter any problems with my i1 Display Pro!

 

[Apple fanboy]

Ha! Now I know where to turn to if I ever encounter any problems with my i1 Display Pro!

Sure no problem. But I’m just the Logistics/Purchasing/Operations Manager!

 

[Nütztjanix]

Sure no problem. But I’m just the Logistics/Purchasing/Operations Manager!

Working flawlessly so far. It's been some time I last used it, though. I'm using it with the LG software to write the LUT to the displays.

 

[Apple fanboy]

So update for M1 has been released. Not native yet as goes through Rosetta, but it’s working.

 

[weaztek]

Glad XRite has it working for M1s now!

Alternately, you can use an excellent freeware called DisplayCAL. I used that in conjunction with XRite software on my machine to do an extensive calibration.

 

[bunnspecial]

So update for M1 has been released. Not native yet as goes through Rosetta, but it’s working.

Thanks! Looks like I'm going to be shopping now.

 

[Sovon Halder]

I have a question relating color profiles. Is it possible for multiple ICC profiles for the same monitor to exist at the same time? I have this m1 mac mini and today I found out that I have 4x "LG HDR 4K" icc profiles in my ColorSYnc Utility. The Settings>Displays>Color however show only 2 of them. Is this normal?

The two shown in the second image produce different results on my display when selected. The one on the top is a bit brighter and the one shown selected is a bit contrasty. I can't tell which one is more accurate.

 

[Apple fanboy]

I have a question relating color profiles. Is it possible for multiple ICC profiles for the same monitor to exist at the same time? I have this m1 mac mini and today I found out that I have 4x "LG HDR 4K" icc profiles in my ColorSYnc Utility. The Settings>Displays>Color however show only 2 of them. Is this normal?

The two shown in the second image produce different results on my display when selected. The one on the top is a bit brighter and the one shown selected is a bit contrasty. I can't tell which one is more accurate.

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Did you measure the colour and brightness with a colorimeter? If not then neither are accurate.
But you can store as many profiles as you need and switch between as needed. Typically for Photo or video. Or editing compared to print profiling. But you need to measure it for it to have any meaning.

 

[Sovon Halder]

Did you measure the colour and brightness with a colorimeter? If not then neither are accurate.
But you can store as many profiles as you need and switch between as needed. Typically for Photo or video. Or editing compared to print profiling. But you need to measure it for it to have any meaning.

I don't have a colorimeter. I have been using this monitor for about 2 years and I have setup my monitor(with the actual hardware buttons on it) according to this tomshardware calibration guide. I have never actually seen multiple "LG HDR 4K" options that produce different results. Where did they come from?

 

[Apple fanboy]

I don't have a colorimeter. I have been using this monitor for about 2 years and I have setup my monitor(with the actual hardware buttons on it) according to this tomshardware calibration guide. I have never actually seen multiple "LG HDR 4K" options that produce different results. Where did they come from?

To be honest following those settings is pretty pointless. It’s a different panel used for a different length of time. If you want it to be accurate you need to measure it. If not then just pick one. They will all be wrong.

 

[Sovon Halder]

To be honest following those settings is pretty pointless. It’s a different panel used for a different length of time. If you want it to be accurate you need to measure it. If not then just pick one. They will all be wrong.

They are expensive and the cheapest one I can find costs nearly half of my monitor's retail price. I'd just love to get some sense of how to read these actual gamut graph(?) or whatever these are called.

This is what was selected by default when I first noticed that there are 2 "LG HDR 4K" in the Color panel. it says it was created today but I don't know how or why.

And this is the other one. It says it was created in January. The mesh on this graph looks a bit spaced out in this image and when the profile is selected it produces a bit brighter image. Is there any straightforward way to tell the difference between these 2 ICC profiles just by looking at these 2 images - about - where they came from, which software generated them, their display output differences etc? How come they are different despite being the exact same monitor? Also if I delete these profiles, can that lead to any problems?

And these are the other 2 that are not shown in the Color preferences.

This one is verrry small.

 

[Apple fanboy]

They are expensive and the cheapest one I can find costs nearly half of my monitor's retail price. I'd just love to get some sense of how to read these actual gamut graph(?) or whatever these are called.

This is what was selected by default when I first noticed that there are 2 "LG HDR 4K" in the Color panel. it says it was created today but I don't know how or why.
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And this is the other one. It says it was created in January. The mesh on this graph looks a bit spaced out in this image and when the profile is selected it produces a bit brighter image. Is there any straightforward way to tell the difference between these 2 ICC profiles just by looking at these 2 images - about - where they came from, which software generated them, their display output differences etc? How come they are different despite being the exact same monitor? Also if I delete these profiles, can that lead to any problems?

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And these are the other 2 that are not shown in the Color preferences.

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This one is verrry small.
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Having multiple profiles isn’t an issue. It can only show one at a time. Just select whichever you are happiest with.
But all monitors drift over time. So what D65 100 candellers on your settings today, isn’t the same as those numbers in a month or a year.

 

[Sovon Halder]

So what D65 100 candellers on your settings today, isn’t the same as those numbers in a month or a year.

I was hoping to install this ICC profile from TFT central submitted by a user who used Spyder4Elite and measured it against a standard "Photo" preset on the monitor. I am a web designer and I also consume a lot of content. I was hoping this could also be a good implementation. Is there anything you can recommend where I don't have to buy any hardware?

 

[Apple fanboy]

I was hoping to install this ICC profile from TFT central submitted by a user who used Spyder4Elite and measured it against a standard "Photo" preset on the monitor. I am a web designer and I also consume a lot of content. I was hoping this could also be a good implementation. Is there anything you can recommend where I don't have to buy any hardware?

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Nope. It’s simply not how it works. Someone else’s profile for someone else’s monitor is pointless. Either profile it properly or just do it by eye. But we all see colour differently, so that’s not very reliable either.

 

[Nütztjanix]

Every display behaves differently. A profile someone else produced might improve your accuracy — but it’s much more likely that it doesn’t help at all.
As @Apple fanboy said — if you’re looking for accuracy, you have to measure yourself.