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laz232

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Console used to show a lot of info.
Now when I select my Device (macbook) and All Messages there is nothing being shown, even when opening apps.
Am running as user:staff.

Permissions problems?
 

laz232

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Could anyone open console as a normal (non-admin) user and tell me if they see messages under "Macbook" (first item top left)?

I only see messages when I am logged in under Admin and sudo Console.

Googling has not turned up anything.
 

zaxxon72

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Oct 5, 2007
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Bump. Could anyone open up console as a non-admin user and check this?
Yes, I concur. Now I know why I was puzzled not to see ANYTHING in my console: I was logged in non-admin.
Under the admin-user, console.app is quite chatty.
 

alexclst

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I noticed this too, and as a developer sent in a bug report about it that got marked as a duplicate. Unfortunately this wasn't fixed in 10.12.1, so we'll see if a future update fixes this. I do think it is a legitimate bug because if you use "log stream" in Terminal as a non-admin you get the expected stream of log messages as we did under El Capitan and earlier. This is also a functional workaround until Console is fixed.
 

laz232

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I noticed this too, and as a developer sent in a bug report about it that got marked as a duplicate. Unfortunately this wasn't fixed in 10.12.1, so we'll see if a future update fixes this. I do think it is a legitimate bug because if you use "log stream" in Terminal as a non-admin you get the expected stream of log messages as we did under El Capitan and earlier. This is also a functional workaround until Console is fixed.

Great thanks for the input guys! because I felt really dumb trying to explain this on the developer bug reporter if it was user error...
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I noticed this too, and as a developer sent in a bug report about it that got marked as a duplicate. Unfortunately this wasn't fixed in 10.12.1, so we'll see if a future update fixes this. I do think it is a legitimate bug because if you use "log stream" in Terminal as a non-admin you get the expected stream of log messages as we did under El Capitan and earlier. This is also a functional workaround until Console is fixed.


Out of interest - a bug I've logged with Apple Developers is that I am unable to rename file in Preview.app (clicking on the title bar of Preview, I can edit filename, but it doesn't get saved) - this is also the account with and empty Console.

Anyone else unable to rename the file through the Preview.app title bar?

FWIW I did an upgrade from Yosemite...
 
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zaxxon72

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Oct 5, 2007
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if ( your non-admin user can sudo ) {
//the following will open a chatty console
sudo /Applications/Utilities/Console.app/Contents/MacOS/Console
}
 
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