converting vrot .avi files handbreak?

[koopa35]

hello i just a got a movie file and it says vrot. avi, handbreak cant open nor can qt is there a way i can convert for atv? HB says no valid source

 

[spinnerlys]

Can you use VideoSpec to analyse that .vrot file and copy/paste the report in your next reply?

Btw, what do you mean by "avi handbreak"? The application is called Handbrake and what has "avi" to do with it?

Maybe you can use some punctuation in your sentences to distinguish the combination of words that belong together?

Or do you mean .avi files? Then where does the "vrot" come from?

 

[koopa35]

Can you use VideoSpec to analyse that .vrot file and copy/paste the report in your next reply?

Btw, what do you mean by "avi handbreak"? The application is called Handbrake and what has "avi" to do with it?

Maybe you can use some punctuation in your sentences to distinguish the combination of words that belong together?

Or do you mean .avi files? Then where does the "vrot" come from?

sorry for the mix up the file reads " vrot.avi"

 

[spinnerlys]

***** First Analyzed File Results *****

*** General Parameters ***
- Name: +++ (Full 2010 Movie) DvDr-X2 Healthy-VROT.avi
- Container: Undefined
- Creation Date: 2010-10-30 12:20:00 PM
- Size: 776.6 MiB
- Duration: Undefined
- Bitrate: Undefined
- Encoding Library: Undefined
- Encoding Application: Undefined

*** Video Track Parameters ***
- Format: No video track

*** Audio Track(s) Parameters ***
- Format: No audio track

*** Miscellaneous ***
- Subtitle(s): No Subtitle
- Metadata: Album: Undefined
Part number: Undefined
Track name: Undefined
Track name number: Undefined
Performer: Undefined
Screenplayer/Writer: Undefined
Genre: Undefined
Encoded date: Undefined
Comment: Undefined
Album artist: Undefined
Grouping: Undefined
Copyright: Undefined

As you can see, there is no video and no audio track inside that .avi file, most likely because you downloaded it from some shady place and the uploader is uploading fakes.

 

[roidy]

First does the avi file actually play on your computer? try playing it in VLC. I wouldn't rely on VideoSpec as it hasn't been updated since November of last year and so uses an old version of MediaInfo. Goto the MediaInfo site and get the latest version and see if that says the same about the avi file, if so then it's a bad avi.

 

[spinnerlys]

First does the avi file actually play on your computer? Also I wouldn't rely on VideoSpec as it hasn't been updated since November of last year and so uses an old version of MediaInfo. Goto the MediaInfo site and get the latest version and see what that says about the avi file.

Nice. Can it run via Wine or Crossover? Or is it better to install Windows via Boot Camp or as a VM to run that Windows application.
What about GSpot?

Anyway, the OP can try MediaInfo Mac for another analyse, but most likely that .avi file is a fake, which seems to be pointed at by Handbrake not being able to read it (as there is no (zero) video or audio information inside the file).

I used VideoSpec with a variety of files, it could read .avi files, .mp4 files, .mkv files, .wmv files, .rm files and so on. Just because an application hasn't been updated for a while, doesn't mean it stops to work and there not that many new popular codecs for video and audio out there since that time.

 

[roidy]

Nice. Can it run via Wine or Crossover?

No need there's versions for all the major OS'es

What about GSpot?

Never tried it, but again it seems to be very old, Feb 2007

Anyway, the OP can try MediaInfo Mac

Same program, just a different GUI front end.

but most likely that .avi file is a fake, which seems to be pointed at by Handbrake not being able to read it (as there is no (zero) video or audio information inside the file).

I'd agree, it's just nice to check with a more up to date program to be sure.

Just because an application hasn't been updated for a while, doesn't mean it stops to work and there not that many new popular codecs for video and audio out there since that time.

No it doesn't mean it stops working, but if I want to be 100% sure about something I'd rather check it with a program that I know to be as up to date as possible, so then there's no doubt in my mind that it's not just old software giving false readings.

But you're right it is probably a dodgy file, even the file name looks suspicious

 

[spinnerlys]

Same program, just a different GUI front end.

I was blind, but now I can see. Sorry for the "attack". The screenshot of the Windows version put me off.
Now I have three applications to scan with, though the one you linked to has the ability to scan directories, though it is not as thorough with info as VideoSpec or MediaInfo Mac.

Ah, now I see, that that application offers different views:

One file, three reports:

MediaInfo

General
Complete name : /Users/lucesumbrarum/Desktop/Untitled-1.mov
Format : QuickTime
Format/Info : Original Apple specifications
File size : 170 MiB
Duration : 18s 440ms
Overall bit rate : 77.5 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-10-14 22:45:12
Tagged date : UTC 2010-10-14 22:47:53
Writing library : Apple QuickTime

Video
ID : 3
Format : Intermediate Codec
Codec ID : icod
Codec ID/Hint : Apple
Duration : 18s 440ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 76.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.466
Stream size : 167 MiB (98%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2010-10-14 22:47:53
Tagged date : UTC 2010-10-14 22:47:53

Audio
ID : 2
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Codec ID : twos
Duration : 18s 440ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 3.38 MiB (2%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2010-10-14 22:45:12
Tagged date : UTC 2010-10-14 22:45:47

MediaInfo Mac

* * * MediaInfo Mac 0.7.36.0 file analysis report.
* * * MediaInfo Mac is ©2010 by Diego Massanti - http://mediainfo.massanti.com
* * * MediaInfoLib by Jerome Martinez - http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net
Created on: Oct 31, 2010 12:24:11 PM GMT+01:00
Report for file: Untitled-1.mov

General / Container Stream #1
Total Video Streams for this File.................1
Total Audio Streams for this File.................1
Video Codecs Used.................................icod
Audio Codecs Used.................................PCM
File Format.......................................QuickTime
Play Time.........................................18s 440ms
Total File Size...................................170 MiB
Total Stream BitRate..............................77.5 Mbps
Encoding Library..................................Apple QuickTime
Video Stream #1
Codec (Human Name)................................Intermediate Codec
Codec (FourCC)....................................icod
Frame Width.......................................1 920 pixels
Frame Height......................................1 080 pixels
Frame Rate........................................25.000 fps
Total Frames......................................461
Display Aspect Ratio..............................16:9
QF (like Gordian Knot)............................1.466
Video Stream Length...............................18s 440ms
Video Stream BitRate..............................76.0 Mbps
Video Stream BitRate Mode.........................VBR
Video Stream Size.................................167 MiB (98%)
Video Stream Language.............................English
Date of Original Encoding.........................UTC 2010-10-14 22:47:53
Audio Stream #1
Codec.............................................PCM
Codec (FourCC)....................................twos
Audio Stream Length...............................18s 440ms
Audio Stream BitRate..............................1 536 Kbps
Audio Stream BitRate Mode.........................CBR
Number of Audio Channels..........................2
Sampling Rate.....................................48.0 KHz
Bit Depth.........................................16 bits
Audio Stream Size.................................3.38 MiB (2%)
Audio Stream Language.............................English
Date of Original Encoding.........................UTC 2010-10-14 22:45:12

VideoSpec

***** First Analyzed File Results *****

*** General Parameters ***
- Name: Untitled-1.mov
- Container: MOV - QuickTime
- Creation Date: 2010-10-15 12:45:12 AM
- Size: 170.4 MiB
- Duration: 0:00:18
- Bitrate: 77.5 Mbps
- Encoding Library: Apple QuickTime
- Encoding Application: Undefined

*** Video Track Parameters ***
- Format: Apple Intermediate Codec
- Size: 167 MiB (98%)
- FourCC: icod
- Track number(s): 1
- Bitrate: Max.: Undefined
Average: 76.0 Mbps
Min.: Undefined
- Frame rate (fps): Max.: ---
Average: 25.000
Min.: ---
- Bitrate mode: Variable
- Encoding profile: Undefined
- Resolution: Undefined
- Width (Pixel number): 1920
- Height (Pixel number): 1080
- Pixel Aspect Ratio: Undefined
- Display aspect ratio: 16:9
- Chroma subsampling format: Undefined
- TV standard: Undefined
- Interlacing: Undefined
- Encoding library: Undefined
- Additional Parameters: Bits/(Pixel*Frame) ratio: 1.466

*** Audio Track(s) Parameters ***
- Format: Uncompressed PCM
- Size: 3.38 MiB (2%)
- FourCC: twos
- Number(s) and language(s): 2: English
- Details: 16-bit, big endian, signed linear PCM
- Profile: Undefined
- Bitrate: 1 536 Kbps
- Bitrate mode: Constant
- Resolution: 16 bits
- Rate: 48.0 KHz
- Channel(s): 2 (stereo)
- Position: Undefined
- Encoding Library: Undefined
- Additional Parameters: Not available

*** Miscellaneous ***
- Subtitle(s): No Subtitle
- Metadata: Album: Undefined
Part number: Undefined
Track name: Undefined
Track name number: Undefined
Performer: Undefined
Screenplayer/Writer: Undefined
Genre: Undefined
Encoded date: UTC 2010-10-14 22:45:12
Comment: Undefined
Album artist: Undefined
Grouping: Undefined
Copyright: Undefined

 

[roidy]

I was blind, but now I can see. Sorry for the "attack". The screenshot of the Windows version put me off.
Now I have three applications to scan with, though the one you linked to has the ability to scan directories, though it is not as thorough with info as VideoSpec or MediaInfo Mac.

Ah, now I see, that that application offers different views:

Didn't think you were attacking me

VideoSpec and MediaInfo Mac are both based around MediaInfo, so all 3 will give you the same information about a video file, just displayed slightly differently. The only extra info VideoSpec gives you is some tagging information from the file which is irrelevant if you only want to analyse the video and audio components of a file.

 

[spinnerlys]

Didn't think you were attacking me

VideoSpec and MediaInfo Mac are both based around MediaInfo, so all 3 will give you the same information about a video file, just displayed slightly differently. The only extra info VideoSpec gives you is some tagging information from the file which is irrelevant if you only want to analyse the video and audio components of a file.

Thanks for that information, I didn't know that. Anyway, I like the handling of VideoSpec and MediaInfo Mac, as MediaInfo seems to be "bad" port of a Windows application.

In my Windows era I used GSpot to analyse videos and was baffled, there was no Mac OS X equivalent, but finally have found one (now three) five years later.