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asmith3006

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Dec 5, 2006
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I'm very close to buying a macbook from the refurb store, but it's only a core duo rather than core 2 duo. Will this make much of a difference? I'm going to be using it for general office type tasks, internet and e-mail and teaching myself FCP. I wont be editing any major stuff, it's just to learn the system.
 

clevin

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Aug 6, 2006
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zero, nada, absolutely no difference for you, for more information
use the search function of this forum, search for "CD"+"C2D", there are a lot of comparison posts.
 

DeSnousa

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The Macbook should be heaps fine, as long as FCP is just for teaching yourself and not something your going to use regularly and like a professional. Also if your just working with DV it should be fine - HD on the other hand...
 

THX2008

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Jan 23, 2007
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Core Duo 2 is probably more future proof since it uses a 64 bit architecture while Core Duo uses 32 bit. I personally run an MPB with a Core Duo and my only worry is that it will be left behind. I'd like to use it for many years to come.
 

Multimedia

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Jul 27, 2001
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C2D For Double Your Cache

I'm very close to buying a macbook from the refurb store, but it's only a core duo rather than core 2 duo. Will this make much of a difference? I'm going to be using it for general office type tasks, internet and e-mail and teaching myself FCP. I wont be editing any major stuff, it's just to learn the system.
You want to spend the extra few bucks for the 2GHz C2D because the cache is twice as big as the CD cache.

All speed CD cache is 2MB
2GHz and faster C2D cache is 4MB

Especially because you are going for Final Cut Studio work, you want C2D to make sure you don't get left behind on some 64-bit feature in future versions.
 

Multimedia

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Jul 27, 2001
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HDV Will Work Fine On A C2D MacBook As Well

The Macbook should be heaps fine, as long as FCP is just for teaching yourself and not something your going to use regularly and like a professional. Also if your just working with DV it should be fine - HD on the other hand...
It will handle HDV just as well as an iMac or a MBP. Only advanced - not basic - Motion work could be a problem due to the IG. We have had a ton of reports of all parts of FCS working great on the MacBook save the tight screen real estate.

It could be used professionally as well as just to teach yourself. It's up to you not some marketing pigeon holler.
 

asmith3006

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Excellent. As there's no posts saying that I'd be daft to get the CD then I think it'll do fine.

I will be editing HDV rather than HD but that's no problem. I'll also be using an external screen I already have so the screen size isn't a problem either (just wish it came with the mini-DVI to DVI adaptor).

Thanks for the advice.

Oh, secondary question, can I put a DVI->VGA converter on the end of the Mini-DVI to DVI converter? I have a couple of them lying around so it will save me some pennies.

Thanks.
 

Habusho

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Aug 12, 2006
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Add to the fact that they have basically no issues whatsoever on the new C2Ds like heat problems etc. that they had on the first MBPs.
 

Multimedia

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Jul 27, 2001
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You Would Be Daft And Insane To Buy The CD Model

zero, nada, absolutely no difference for you, for more information
use the search function of this forum, search for "CD"+"C2D", there are a lot of comparison posts.
You don't know what you're writing about. There are a TON of differences fixed in the C2D models.
Excellent. As there's no posts saying that I'd be daft to get the CD then I think it'll do fine.

I will be editing HDV rather than HD but that's no problem. I'll also be using an external screen I already have so the screen size isn't a problem either (just wish it came with the mini-DVI to DVI adaptor).

Thanks for the advice.

Oh, secondary question, can I put a DVI->VGA converter on the end of the Mini-DVI to DVI converter? I have a couple of them lying around so it will save me some pennies.
You would be DAFT and INSANE to get a CD model.

Only buy a 2GHz or faster C2D model
.
 

asmith3006

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Dec 5, 2006
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Right, that's thrown a spanner in the works...

Out of the two, which would you get:
Option 1
Refurbished MacBook 2.0GHz Intel Core Duo - White
13.3-inch glossy widescreen display
1280 x 800 resolution
512MB memory (2x256MB SODIMMs)
60GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA hard drive
SuperDrive (DVD±RW/CD-RW)
Built-in iSight camera

Option 2
Refurb Mac mini 1.83GHz Intel Core Duo /512MB /80GB /SuperDrive /GMA950 /AirPort /Bluetooth - Apple Certified

There's £140 difference between the two...

I Know that motion will be pants due to the 950 graphics, and I know that neither is ideal for video editing. But I don't have lots of money right now and I only want to teach myself FCP (I currently use Avid Media Composer Adrenaline at work) so I don't need huge amounts of power.

What are the heat issues you mentioned Habusho?
 

Multimedia

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Jul 27, 2001
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$1099 For 1GB 2GHz 80GB Superdrive Cooler C2D White

Right, that's thrown a spanner in the works...

Out of the two, which would you get:
Option 1
Refurbished MacBook 2.0GHz Intel Core Duo - White
13.3-inch glossy widescreen display
1280 x 800 resolution
512MB memory (2x256MB SODIMMs)
60GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA hard drive
SuperDrive (DVD±RW/CD-RW)
Built-in iSight camera

Option 2
Refurb Mac mini 1.83GHz Intel Core Duo /512MB /80GB /SuperDrive /GMA950 /AirPort /Bluetooth - Apple Certified

There's £140 difference between the two...

I Know that motion will be pants due to the 950 graphics, and I know that neither is ideal for video editing. But I don't have lots of money right now and I only want to teach myself FCP (I currently use Avid Media Composer Adrenaline at work) so I don't need huge amounts of power.

What are the heat issues you mentioned Habusho?
Refurbished MacBook 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo - White
13.3-inch glossy widescreen display
1280 x 800 resolution
1GB memory (2x512MB SODIMMs)
80GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA hard drive
SuperDrive (DVD±RW/CD-RW)
Built-in iSight camera
Learn More

$1099

From California there are only C2D models offered right now.
 

asmith3006

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Dec 5, 2006
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I'm in England.....probably should have mentioned that <embarrassed>

Wish the prices were like that over here! That's a bargin!
 

Multimedia

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Jul 27, 2001
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You'll Want 2GB RAM For FCS

I'm in England.....probably should have mentioned that <embarrassed>
You need to take into consideration that you are going to want 2GB of RAM inside MINIMUM 1GB to run Final Cut Studio applications. So the one I suggest already has 1GB included and you can add only 1 stick to get it to 1.5GB vs. 1.25GB from the weaker one you suggest. You aren't going to want to run Final Cut applications with only .5GB of RAM.
 

clevin

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Aug 6, 2006
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You don't know what you're writing about. There are a TON of differences fixed in the C2D models.

HUH, were you over reacted? Computer is for ppl to use, absolute difference means nothing for a certain user, why? coz they don't need it. coz different ppl have difference usage and concerns when purchasing a computer. always remember not everybody go to a computer store and buy top of the line.
 

rogersmj

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Sep 10, 2006
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Oh, secondary question, can I put a DVI->VGA converter on the end of the Mini-DVI to DVI converter? I have a couple of them lying around so it will save me some pennies.

Thanks.

No, you can't. DVI->VGA adapters won't fit on the end of Apple's Mini-DVI->DVI converters because they output DVI-I and a DVI->VGA adapter requires DVI-D. You have to buy the right Apple adapter for your monitor.
 

bsolomonny

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Jan 10, 2007
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Taiwan
I have been using a core duo macbook for a few weeks now and all i can say is wow. It works great. Not a single problem. If you look around you can still get a great deal one as they have long since been discontinued. I got a blackbook for my girlfriend for 800 + tax and a white 2.0 ghz with 3-yr applecare for myself for 1000 no tax. I was really concerned about getting a core duo macbook but after using my girlfriend blackbook for a while i felt much better and ordered my own. just wish they still had a few more blackbooks.
 

Roba

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Mar 18, 2006
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Although i have never owned a Macbook i have owned a 2.0ghz CD MBP and a C2D 2.33ghz MBP and i didn't really notice any kind of difference between those two models. I didn't just test out these models at the Apple store or something. I used and owned both of these models at the same time for several months. I have now sold the C2D MBP though and will maybe sell the CD as well to be ready when Apple release whatever they do next lol.

The CD is fine for my needs though and it can do everything that i need it to.
 

sycho

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Oct 7, 2006
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No, you can't. DVI->VGA adapters won't fit on the end of Apple's Mini-DVI->DVI converters because they output DVI-I and a DVI->VGA adapter requires DVI-D.

you got that backwards, the Mini DVI > DVI adaptor is DVI-D and a VGA adaptor is DVI-I
 
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