Could Apple get sued for SSDgate?

[WilliApple]

You may already know that Apple uses 1 single NAN chip in their M2 MacBooks. However, this comes at a huge cost in performance. The 256 GB SSD model on the M2 performs WORSE than the M1 models. That is what SSDgate is.

Apple also makes the claim that the M2 MacBooks are faster, but they give no disclaimer that the 256 GB SSD model is slower than the M1 MacBook Air Model.

Now we all know Butterflygate and Bendgate got a class action lawsuit. Could Apple theoretically get sued for SSDgate as well?

 

[russell_314]

In the USA you can sue ANYONE for ANYTHING so the answer is yes... Frivolous lawsuits keep lawyers rich and people greedy. Even if such a suit happens lawyers will get millions and users will likely get like $20 🤣

Will it stick? Maybe who knows. They would have to show some claim Apple made that was not true. They don't really need to put a disclaimer that one is slower or faster. There's no disclaimer that the M2 Air is slower than the M1 Pro even though M2 implies that it's faster. That could be a suit.

 

[BanditoB]

There wouldn't be much of a basis for the suit as Apple doesn't specify SSD speed anywhere and the M2 is generally faster than the M1 is, so it would be nigh on impossible to say that Apple misrepresented M2 performance. Besides, Apple is advertising that the processor is faster, not the entire system. In most cases the M2 systems will be faster, but if you have a particular scenario that is disk intensive, you will see a performance drop, but whether it is significant or not depends on the specific use case. One of the videos that I watched regarding various workflows showed that the performance hit due to the slower SSD wasn't anything that would really be noticeable to most users. It was a matter of a few seconds here and there.

 

[G5isAlive]

You know the theory about deep pockets yes? These days they don't get much deeper than Apple's. I expect they could come out with a greeting card and someone would sue them.

 

[kpluck]

Apple also makes the claim that the M2 MacBooks are faster, but they give no disclaimer that the 256 GB SSD model is slower than the M1 MacBook Air Model.

From what I saw, Apple's performance claims talk about the CPU and GPU, they say nothing about faster storage. I think a lawsuit would be as pointless as this thread.

-kp

 

[Mlrollin91]

There's no cause of action. Apple was sued for the butterfly keyboards because people were being refused repairs out of warranty and people were being damaged. People are not damaged by a slower SSD; and because Apple has not advertised the SSD speeds, there is no claim for false advertisement.

As someone that deals with a lot of false advertising lawsuits, this would be tossed out at the pleadings stage (aka motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim).

 

[profcutter]

There's no cause of action. Apple was sued for the butterfly keyboards because people were being refused repairs out of warranty and people were being damaged. People are not damaged by a slower SSD; and because Apple has not advertised the SSD speeds, there is no claim for false advertisement.

As someone that deals with a lot of false advertising lawsuits, this would be tossed out at the pleadings stage (aka motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim).

Yeah, the funny thing about the butterfly keyboard fiasco was that it was almost as much a customer support failure as a design failure. Apple must have known the keyboards were faulty, so refused repairs until forced to change. I hope someone in retail’s head rolled for that one. Figuratively speaking.

 

[tranceking26]

I'm sure someone will try their luck!

 

[Coochie Boogs]

This is ridiculous, no. Its not like they put a faulty drive in everyones laptop, its just configured with different components. Nothing more.

 

[jav6454]

You may already know that Apple uses 1 single NAN chip in their M2 MacBooks. However, this comes at a huge cost in performance. The 256 GB SSD model on the M2 performs WORSE than the M1 models. That is what SSDgate is.

Apple also makes the claim that the M2 MacBooks are faster, but they give no disclaimer that the 256 GB SSD model is slower than the M1 MacBook Air Model.

Now we all know Butterflygate and Bendgate got a class action lawsuit. Could Apple theoretically get sued for SSDgate as well?

No as two things here:

1. Apple offers 256GB and gives you 256GB
2. Apple doesn't explicitly advertise a specific number for read/write in their ads/materials

 

[Fishrrman]

question:
"Could Apple get sued for SSDgate?"

answer:
NO.
Don't be silly.

 

[jz0309]

You may already know that Apple uses 1 single NAN chip in their M2 MacBooks. However, this comes at a huge cost in performance. The 256 GB SSD model on the M2 performs WORSE than the M1 models. That is what SSDgate is.

Apple also makes the claim that the M2 MacBooks are faster, but they give no disclaimer that the 256 GB SSD model is slower than the M1 MacBook Air Model.

Now we all know Butterflygate and Bendgate got a class action lawsuit. Could Apple theoretically get sued for SSDgate as well?

I suggest you hire a lawyer, make a case and then have them pursue this…
/s

 

[TracerAnalog]

You may already know that Apple uses 1 single NAN chip in their M2 MacBooks. However, this comes at a huge cost in performance. The 256 GB SSD model on the M2 performs WORSE than the M1 models. That is what SSDgate is.

Apple also makes the claim that the M2 MacBooks are faster, but they give no disclaimer that the 256 GB SSD model is slower than the M1 MacBook Air Model.

Now we all know Butterflygate and Bendgate got a class action lawsuit. Could Apple theoretically get sued for SSDgate as well?

All these ‘-gates’ are tiresome.

 

[Abazigal]

You may already know that Apple uses 1 single NAN chip in their M2 MacBooks. However, this comes at a huge cost in performance. The 256 GB SSD model on the M2 performs WORSE than the M1 models. That is what SSDgate is.

Apple also makes the claim that the M2 MacBooks are faster, but they give no disclaimer that the 256 GB SSD model is slower than the M1 MacBook Air Model.

Now we all know Butterflygate and Bendgate got a class action lawsuit. Could Apple theoretically get sued for SSDgate as well?

Someone can try. And they will fail.

 

[ponzicoinbro]

You may already know that Apple uses 1 single NAN chip in their M2 MacBooks. However, this comes at a huge cost in performance. The 256 GB SSD model on the M2 performs WORSE than the M1 models. That is what SSDgate is.

Apple also makes the claim that the M2 MacBooks are faster, but they give no disclaimer that the 256 GB SSD model is slower than the M1 MacBook Air Model.

Now we all know Butterflygate and Bendgate got a class action lawsuit. Could Apple theoretically get sued for SSDgate as well?

LMAO I have no words for this it’s like the first world problem full circle.

There is no design fault here.

 

[altaic]

It’s amazing to me that techies will (rightly) discuss the inefficiencies of various chips, products, cryptocurrencies, etc., yet still suggest legal action to resolve minor issues. Spoiler: legal systems are MANY orders of magnitude more inefficient than any hardware or software ever engineered… like computing with hand-laid dominoes is more efficient. Anyone tech oriented should be aghast at the suggestion of employing it willy nilly. What a waste.

 

[Abazigal]

I think the term “gate” is also used way too liberally when it comes to Apple, even for fairly minor issues. To the point of desensitising readers. When everything is a “gate”, how does one differentiate the legitimate problems from the “concern trolling”?

 

[Red Menace]

You would need to define "huge cost". Anyone that really needs storage speed (or capacity) would already know, so no "gate". You don’t see anything about PriusGate because it is slow, the whole thing is just silly.

 

[Stratus Fear]

All these ‘-gates’ are tiresome.

 

[eicca]

The amount of time "lost" to a slightly-slower SSD isn't anywhere near what someone would lose trying to go through with a frivolous lawsuit.

 

[southerndoc]

Still waiting for the Mac Studio Whinegate litigation.

 

[jbachandouris]

AGREED!

 

[Starfia]

Could someone get sued for suing Apple for SSD-gate?